Alliance will only be popular again with new models and racials

[ravenmoon]

That's Alliance not Allinace (excuse the typo, i can't edit it out)

Worgen are really cool, but i dn't see any horde member giving up on the horde for it. I know many horde players will play a worgen character, but they will raid with their horde mains, and liekly level a goblin too.

Yes, alliance are out numbered by horde on most realms...nearly all pvp realms. check WG, some pve realms sitll have an alliance majority tho, but blizzard are aware that the horde is much larger, and are hoping worgen will be to the alliance what blood elves were to the horde. It won't happen blizz............monster races are cool and the cool kids play undead/troll/orc & worgen, the fan boys will play the pretty races, of which tbh only the blood elves are when you compare toon characters between different video games only blood elves seem to measure up.

3-6 years ago it was allinace majority, i know some players still think that more alliance players play than horde, trust me, go check on the majority ofrealms and ask which side dominates on your server, on most of them it is horde.

ONly 2 ways allinace will claw back members:
1. MAke racials more even: not the same: Give alliance offensive/pvp racials, and give horde defensive/pvE based racials. They don't have to be the same thing at all, they just need to have an offensive minded racial like the orc /torll ones etc, so each race has 2 offensieve, 2 defensive.

2. Re-model: They need to make humans and night elves pretty for real, and with better animations and posture. Also they'd need tsome better modelling on dwarves and gnomes making them more distinct than just midget sized humans. They also need to increase the polygon count on orcs/trolls/forsaken/tauren but those do not need a complete remodel.

some players play blood elves only because they are the only pretty race, which shouldn't be the case, i don't mind that they're the pretiest, but in all fairenss, that should be blood elves and night elves. Humans look awful in wow, they need to look good, pretty per say, not as much as elves but nicer than theya re especialy males. then they need to fix the animations.

imo, racials and models will redress the balance. THEY DO SHOULD NOT make high elves playable, let them remain an unplayable alliance race. Fix humans and night elves instead.

[Venziir]

The Alliance WILL be overrun by an army, no a LEGION of scrubs thanks to the Worgen... Just like the Horde, when Blood Elves joined... Mark my words! :P

[Deleted]

Looking at the misspelled title I thought this thread was going to be a non sensical rant, but the points you make are actually fairly accurate.

[zealous]

[Deleted]

There is nothing wrong with trolls/orcs/taurens/worgens/undeads?

[FrantACs]

I am sorry... But playing a faction just cause of racial is not "good". I play Alliance cuz I ain't no troll troll. Sorry, but this is argument enough for me.

[warcrimes]

3-6 years ago it was allinace majority, i know some players still think that more alliance players play than horde, trust me, go check on the majority ofrealms and ask which side dominates on your server, on most of them it is horde.

you can thank whoever had the brilliant idea to put in faction change worst idea ever imo(FYI imo=IN MY OPINION meaning its what i think you dont have to think the same)

[lohengrin]

i mean we could all use a graphic upgrade on teh models i've notice in NR tht the enviornment and armor is getting more detailed and we still look like we did when i started playing. It's not like a game breaker but at this rate in a few years we'll have this super pretty world and gear with cheap generic character models.In the very least they could make tauren and humans updated the tauren look blocky as hell and all human dudes look like 45 year old line backers...

[Deleted]

The Alliance WILL be overrun by an army, no a LEGION of scrubs thanks to the Worgen... Just like the Horde, when Blood Elves joined... Mark my words! :P

Worgen wont have it that bad, they don't have paladin.

[Metian]

There is only one little problem, you can't solve in a minute.

Alliance = Good, Horde = Bad. Some like to play a 'bad' side, with badass heroes and others like to play the 'good' side, and play with pony's and stuff.. or something..

You'll get the point.

[Slakkers]

Thats IT! I am rerolling horde...

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tl;dr

[Deleted]

I dont see why they should make one side more playable / likable to draw more players to it on purpose, even if it is slightly underpopulated.
The horde draws a lot of players because they represent a more fantasy and outlandish style, but that was not done in purpose of the game, not for wow at least, you will have to look back at the wc series.

And btw, the night elves are awesome, and to say they need a complete remake is kinda dumb, they have a better design than troll female and even tho i love the race, male tauren.
So if they plan to remake any race, they better fix everyone else up as well.

Give alliance offensive/pvp racials, and give horde defensive/pvE based racials

That is a very bad idea. What about alliance players that only like to pvp and oposite for horde?
Not possible to generalize like that ^^

There is only one little problem, you can't solve in a minute.

Alliance = Good, Horde = Bad. Some like to play a 'bad' side, with badass heroes and others like to play the 'good' side, and play with pony's and stuff.. or something..

You'll get the point.

Thats even more wrong than the OP.
Alliance is far from all good and the Horde is far from all bad, it hasn't been divided like that since warcraft 2

[ComputerNerd]

You cannot judge the popularity of a faction on the visuals of their races.
The realm I am on has supposedly a pretty balanced population, until you come to wintergrasp where the horde only appear in similar if not greater numbers during the early hours.
Alliance outnumber them vastly most other times during the day.
Large numbers will rush to both goblin and worgen since they are something new, and why a lot stayed blood elves was better pvp utility, much like how a large number of alliance are human for that reason.

Not a switch of the theme of the racials, but a balancing instead would be better.
Stop having alliance being practically all defensive, and the horde not entirely offensive.
Mix them up a bit offering both.

[Texar]

I like how the OP, seems to think people only play Alliance because of race models and Racials. Ignorance is bliss, i guess.

[Grumar]

Worgen wont have it that bad, they don't have paladin.

yes but they have EVERYTHING else except shammy, I feel for alli on this all the twilight freaks who will be rolling there faction now just because of this one race. Alli faction change before it's too late

[Milesmilitus]

Play alliance, always played alliance, alliance dominates the server, always has, from launch. In playing my characters, the racials and models really don't factor into my decision. If people chose to play horde, just because of a character model, the horde are welcome to them.

[ravenmoon]

The Alliance WILL be overrun by an army, no a LEGION of scrubs thanks to the Worgen... Just like the Horde, when Blood Elves joined... Mark my words! :P

no they won't.

Blood elves are essentially high elves, wow's most anticipated race. if they had opened up with high elves, then it would have been night elves that woudl have been wow's most anticipated race.

But they opened up with night elves. Blood elves have the history, they are not a new race although their re-invention as blood elves is fairly new, they are the iconic elves with a twist. People have wanted to play them forever. Worgen like Draenei, came out of no where. Goblins were far more anticipated to, unlike worgen or draenei they had the back drop.

Worgen look good, i love the worgen models both male and especially female, the redone ones were much better than the old ones that looked quite cutsy, but they are not cutsy, blood elf players who love blood elves for being pretty will not play worgen, too ugly. and they make up the vast majority of horde players.

Blood elf numbers were also large because all paladins are blood elves, and paladins are a much more popular class than shaman which is why the draenei did not have anywhere near as much an impact. With Tauren paladins now, i know some blood elves will race change, but you have to note Worgen do not introduce any race specific class.

Blood elves will not switch to worgen, some orc/tauren/troll lovers might, and some alliance will for the cool factor, but then before blood elves may i remind you only the cool kids played undead/troll/orc /tauren -- and they were not many which is why the alliance out numbered the horde. ... when are well known and truly pretty race was introduced, afterwahile, a lot of people migrated over to the horde.

Two reasons, better pvp, the racials were better suited to pvp, the faction atmosphwere was nicer. I've played on both and early horde atmosphere was a hell of a lot nicer than early alliance atmosphere, the game felt like a community and was a lot of fun. This was diluted with blood elves, but it still has more of a closeness than the alliance. People who switched and never played horde cos they couldn't stand playing monster-types had the blood elves as a life line which they took whole heartedly. Yes its a looks game. ...........

WIth superior pvp, world pvE leading guilds horde dominated too, why stay allinace? if you wanteed pretty you at least had blood elves. Worgen will not have the same impact as blood elves.

The only thing that will claw members back to the alliance is fair racials such that both factions are equally competitive (not their being a horde advantage (or perceived one) ) and nicer alliance models, because human & night elf - the "meant to be pretty " ones are terrible.

They fix that, then more people will come back to the alliance. I showed my friends wow, and 10/10 from the start up screen the horde gets more attnetion. Largely all always like the blood elves. Some really like undead/troll/orc - but taht is flavor as some really don't like them too. They are largely indifferent about the allinace races, the only time they pick them is normally a "best of a bad bunch" scenario - and that is likely if they hate manga and monsters,

[Herecius]

OP is absolutely right. Nobody plays the Allinace. I can't think of a single Allinace guild.

[ravenmoon]

Play alliance, always played alliance, alliance dominates the server, always has, from launch. In playing my characters, the racials and models really don't factor into my decision. If people chose to play horde, just because of a character model, the horde are welcome to them.

on your server, on most server it is the oppoiste, most have swung to horde majority especially on pvp realms, i really don't see worgen changing that, only model re-modelling and equal racials.

and TExar i don't think that is the only reason players play allinace.. i think it is the reason the gap is so huge. racials affecting pvp, community on horde, and apppearance is why people will not return to the alliance. if you make the aliance races look good again, namely human & night elf, remove some dumb ass animations, then make them equal racial wise, the pvp dominance will fade because of equal racials and they woul dhave some decent appearing options on the alliance that aren't quite eyesores.