about 10-11k in Bossfights, with 1-2 buffs. in a 5 Minute Fight unbuffed against this heroic raid puppet or however it is called, i make around 8,4-8,5 .. +1k while Vendetta is active. ilvl333
about 10-11k in Bossfights, with 1-2 buffs. in a 5 Minute Fight unbuffed against this heroic raid puppet or however it is called, i make around 8,4-8,5 .. +1k while Vendetta is active. ilvl333
Maxxed out at 16k boss fight, did 14k with combat gear in VOA25, now mutilate ilvl337, average 8-10k with high amounts of cc at the end of the instance. Not bad, but not too good too. Highly dependent on luck,crits etc.
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im pretty much in full heroic blues with eng goggles, epic rep gloves and epic rep ring and doing about 15k in a patchwerk style fight, glad to hear i am not the only one who feels this is low >.<
ggg
Ofc we're doing shit dps now. We don't run around with 50%+ crit etc. Just be happy that we're not getting steamrolled by the other classes instead.
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Average 10-13k depending on fight, with a peak of 17.8k on Commander Springvale(out of the non-gimmick fights).
Also I've lost about 24% haste and 45% crit since ICC came out, but the general increase of AP/Agility and very nicely itemised trinkets sorta keeps it back up to where it used to be. Back in VoA-days(to refer to something without the 30% buff) I did about 14-16k DPS.
Only ones truly beating me now are equally geared feral druids with their oh-so-balanced 18k++ rake crits.
Just hit 329 yesterday, joined vortex pinnacle and hit a 27 k dps peak on Argaloth ending on 23 k, kind of 3 manned him cus the other dps died early and i had like 85%+ of the damage done (since people brought Argaloth up...)
as for most tank and spank bosses in 5 mans i do between 12 and 14 k, 16 with hero usually.
something is really wrong if you do worse now a irl his assas rogue does 14-16k dps and no he doesn't have raid gear just normal and few heriocs
Rogues aint top of the pile more like slumming the middle in raids so until we get full raid gear and better hit/exp/crit ect get used to it. We do have ok deepees in normals and heroics tho as long as we are not going too crazy with cc/kiting
AVG ilvl of 339 pulling around 13-14 from what i've been watching in heroics. Hitting raids soon so i'll see how that goes in BWD
It may seem nerfed now but that's because well your in blues which means alot of the stats you need to "cap" (hit/expertise/etc) probably are not "capped", plus how are you judging that because I know I go into a 85 dungeon on my druid who had 314 gear and on trash was only doing about 4K dps but on bosses was doing about 9.5-11Kdps when it was single target and lived long enough to bleed. Plus is that 500 less dps comparing your DPS pre talent changes, post talent changes and if post talent changes where where you checking it? ICC? And finally what is your crit % compaired to at 80? Probably a lot lower since your not in a 3rd tier of raid gear for the expansion and so they have to give room to have gear grow. It will get up higher soon enough you just have to remember that the bloated stats despite being so large for an 85 still are giving room for 3-4 tiers of raid gear of growth what your compairing really is Full raid gear %s to say the %s you had one the first few weeks of wrath where you where rocking the Ilvl 200 stats where your crit was like 18% rather then 45% and your hit or expertise where capped but not both.
Edit: yes in every instance I have done so far on my druid I have been near bottom on trash damage, second in overall damage but top damage (in most cases by far) on all the bosses. Its been since vanilla since I played feral so still getting use to what to use on trash.
Last edited by Hockeyhacker; 2010-12-15 at 10:25 AM.
I'm finding that my dps drops quite a bit on fights that demand a lot of target switching, ripsnarl etc etc. when i can sit on a target though i can get up to 12k+. i got 14k on rahj. And i'm unenchanted using green gems with a 333/346 offhand, and only 1 green piece left to replace.
Pulling from 10k to 20k dps, depends on fight mechanic and circumstances in which I need to pop recuperate or stun adds or kick.
As far as I've seen, I cannot pull out the highest dps possible because of threat. Using 2 fast weapons, istant poison procs are so high the tank cannot hold even after TotT... Feint must definitely be on rotation :|
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Last edited by mmocc76f96689f; 2010-12-16 at 09:24 AM.
only non gimmick fight I've done in raids so far is the two dragons. It involves switching targets but I was able to manage 14.5K on the fight. I don't believe rogues are in a bad place by design right now. I think our only drawback is we are not geared. Well at least that's what I'm hoping anyway.
And since someone mentioned the VP drake ~ 23K but I died cause the tank wanted the haste buff too. Mmmmmm dragon's breath. Ate it like a champ.
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I was doing an average of about 17-18k last night on Magmaw. i'm enchanted and gemmed but not the best it should be, my gear isn't good enough for me to blow alot of money on it then replace it in a few days. still, i'm happy with my dps. only being beaten by hunters doing Aoe on the Adds.
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Try getting expertise cap and spell hit cap if you are having problems, although you should already have them, it's common sense to get them up first.
considering i went from end game epics to begining blues and greens my dps isnt horrible i am finding i tend mess up my rotation more often then inturn which is lowering my dps with having to work in my threat managment and also using recup i am sure it will iron itself out in time i wont really start qqing till i get geared and i am still doing crap damage
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