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    Prot Pallys What Do You Spend Your Holy Power On?

    Hi am new to level 85 pally tanking and i seem to have lots of spare holy power and just dont know what to spend it on !!!!, if anyone has any ideas please help

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    It depends on the situation but as a general rule in 5mans where I know the pull is going to be healing intensive on our healer I usually start with spending it on WoG until the first or second mob goes down then when the incoming damage is reduced I change to Shield of the Righteous. The same goes for questing if I pull packs of mobs to get my drops faster.

    On boss fights I might go with a Shield of the Righteous first to make sure I have solid aggro then switch between Shield and WoG. There is no hard and fast rule as far as I'm concerned and I consider myself a pretty good tank.

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    Healing yourself with Word of Glory is a great way of taking a little burden from the healer. Unless you've got problems keeping aggro, of course.

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    Shield slam

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    hp > 70-80% - Shield of the Righteous
    hp < 70-80%, (with low threat ) - Shield of the Righteous
    hp < 70-80%, (with high threat ) - WoG

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    I generally use WoG, unless the healer's mana is near full. If I'm targeting an enemy that requires a spike of threat, I use Shield of Righteous. If I'm high on health and threat, the healer is high on mana, and the fight's gonna take a while longer, I use, what was it... Vindication? That 30% damage buff, and stack it with Wings. I don't know if that does more damage than shield overall, but it feels like good practice. I'm sure the difference between that and shield is negligible though, unless you're AoEing.

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    WoG if under 60% or AoE threat needed, else Shield Slam

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    depends on the situation and group. I don't think any of the hard numbers posted here are accurate.

    There are plenty of times when solo queuing for random heroics when you may be the top or 2nd in dps and still be able to down bosses fairly easily. Cata heroics are not nearly as difficult as TBC heroics despite everything people want to say. Healing yourself is not always the best option at low health, some times you have a good healer and crap dps and the best action to be taken is to down the boss as fast as possible and as a result SoR is the best HP dump.

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    Hmm, no mention of Inquisition?

    for me it's:
    SotR for single target pulls and aggro.
    Inquisition for multi-target pulls and aggro.
    WoG if I'm not topped off already.

    Usually by the second 3HP I have enough aggro to just WoG myself and help the healer.

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    I have power auras set up to tell me when Sacred Duty procs (and a timer for it). If I have 3 holy power and sacred duty is up, I hit SoR. If it's not up, I hit Inquisition/WoG, depending on if I need the extra heal. I don't do anything with less than 3 HP.

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    I use 2x shield slam in the pull of any boss, wether its 5, 10 or 25 man.

    After that I only use WoG, and in trash I also only use WoG. Its great for AoE threat and takes some burden of the healers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    Its great for AoE threat
    Sorry but this is just not true, healing especially as a paladin is a terrible way to get aggro.

    If you are in combat with 5 mobs and heal for 100k then the threat is first diveded by 2 since 1 healing only cause 0,5 threat which means 50k threat. Thats is then split between the 5 targets which means 10k threat each. But since blizzard at vanilla was scared that paladin would heal tank paladins got another threat modifier that reduce the threat by 50% yet again which mean 5k threat on each target.

    But since you have RF which boost your threat to 300% you end with 15k threat on each. Which is pretty decent but how often do you wog for 100k?

    Im not saying wog is bad it can be helpfull to keep yourself alive but if what you want is threat then the 30% holy damage is far and away better on aoe and SR is 100 times better on sinlge target.

    tl;dr WoG is terrible aoe threat but still nice.

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    Word of Glory most of the times, to make it more easy on the healers, i throw in a Shield of the Righteous sometimes to. WoG is also great for the absorb shield if u have talents into it.

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    For random heroics I even specced for that 30% no HP WoG chance. And I love it. Threat is no issue most of the time, so I use SotR mostly once in the beginning of boss fight, then I WoG all the time unless I am topped. And that talent lets me to heal a lot and still be able to use shield after it.

    To WoG AoE threat - it is better AoE threat than SotR :-).

    About inquisition - I dont have any AoE problems or threat problems so I dont really need more dps. But you always need more heals. As ret I use Inq all the time but as Prot I dont think it is that much needed. Maybe later, when healers are better geared, we have more avoidances and dps will put better numbers we will need more AoE dps.

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    SotR most times. The faster they die, the faster my healer stops spending their mana. WoG if I feel the damage merits it. Inquisition if my consecration is off cooldown for any AoE situation(if it's not, WoG is more beneficial overall unless for some reason I'm really struggling with threat).

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    Wow. Not a single person mentioned SoTR for the extra block to reduce incoming damage. All I see is SoTR for threat and WoG for "threat" and helping the healers.

    Boss fight: Exorcism > Avengers shield > Cons > CS x1 > SoTR (for block) > normal rotation > WoG > normal rotation > SoTR (threat and block) > normal rotation > WoG etc etc.

    Trash: Who gives a shit?
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  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Retsucks View Post
    Wow. Not a single person mentioned SoTR for the extra block to reduce incoming damage. All I see is SoTR for threat and WoG for "threat" and helping the healers.
    Inquisition and WoG also trigger Holy Shield.

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    SotR if high HP, WoG if low. No inquisition since I don't really find it that useful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Retsucks View Post
    Boss fight: Exorcism > Avengers shield > Cons > CS x1 > SoTR (for block) > normal rotation > WoG > normal rotation > SoTR (threat and block) > normal rotation > WoG etc etc.
    Boss fight start with Exorcism? I never did it and find it really unnecessary. The dps should just wait those 5 seconds when you engage a boss and that should be enough for you to keep aggro all the way. Or you could just taunt at the start and then build up aggro till taunt wears off. Pfft exorcism... how silly.
    Last edited by Grable; 2010-12-21 at 01:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retsucks View Post
    Trash: Who gives a shit?
    In a PUG heroic dungeon runs sometimes i find trash being harder than bosses.

    Anyway:
    - when i feel that healer is not able to catch up: WoG (70%)
    - when i need aggro: SoR (30%)
    - i barely use inquisition on AOE pulls (~ 0%), mainly because there are not so many in today heroics and also because in this situation usually need a bit more healing, so i rather use WoG to help our healer.

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    HP, there are no spare points.

    WoG when the fight is gonna last long and my health is not at the maximum.
    Inqusition when im fighting 3 monsters or more (so my aoe dmg gets a boost).
    SotR on Single targets when WoG is not needed.

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