Never been kicked in 50 heroics on shaman. Then i level my warrior...

[Deleted]

And first HC in i get kicked third pull. (was dps)
Just thought it funny, people will apparently take any chance to kick someone if they arent top dps. Jeez i've been carrying scrubs on my shaman for weeks and never initiated a votekick.

[Spectrez]

Anybody would kick someone who isn't as good as them, for no reason.

[RushLimbaugh]

What DPS were you pulling? Were you standing in bad shit?

[Heilige]

I kick any DPS that isn't up to snuff, doesn't mean I expect them to match my 18-20k, but if they're at 4-6k GTFO. No reason to be sub 8k as I was breaking 10k on December 7th/8th in my first heroics.

[bman8633]

I kick any DPS that isn't up to snuff, doesn't mean I expect them to match my 18-20k, but if they're at 4-6k GTFO. No reason to be sub 8k as I was breaking 10k on December 7th/8th in my first heroics.

LOL, you're cool

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[MannDuo]

*In reference to Heilige

Not always the case though.

Average I can pull 10k, if I want 18-20k.

But on some fights I will sit at the bottom with around 4 - 5k. All depends on the mechanics

[MonsieuRoberts]

I kick any DPS that isn't up to snuff, doesn't mean I expect them to match my 18-20k, but if they're at 4-6k GTFO. No reason to be sub 8k as I was breaking 10k on December 7th/8th in my first heroics.

A lot of people will read that and think "Wow, that person is such a dick!" Honestly, I agree with you 100% Pull your weight, or get out.

I set 6K as the benchmark. If a Pug can't keep up with that, they are holding the rest of the group back.

[tankytanktank123]

I kick any DPS that isn't up to snuff, doesn't mean I expect them to match my 18-20k, but if they're at 4-6k GTFO. No reason to be sub 8k as I was breaking 10k on December 7th/8th in my first heroics.

this man is a BADASS!

[palamanian]

A lot of people will read that and think "Wow, that person is such a dick!" Honestly, I agree with you 100% Pull your weight, or get out.

I set 6K as the benchmark. If a Pug can't keep up with that, they are holding the rest of the group back.

6k benchmark is being very nice. Had a SPriest doing 5800 earlier and because he was buddies with the tank, no one dared to kick him. Cost of the instance though as they couldn't kill adds on Erudux in Grim Batol.

[Deleted]

just think its funny. Been pulling all kind of noob crap on the shaman. Pulled packs, stood in fire and never gotten kicked. Guess everyone wants a shaman in group heh.

[shokter]

I almost never kick people (I am a tank) and even less just because of low dps. There are very few fights where the dps will make or break the encounter. Correct target priority and CC will trump dps in many cases. Case in point: Erudax the other night. I was wiping in an LFD pug over and over because dps could not get the adds down. Eventually two dps left, and we got two replacements that were actually lower dps. One was a rog who was able to tag each add with some slow poison as they spawned and the other a hunter slowing w conc shot if one add got missed by the rog. The dps who left were up around 9-10k, but were slow to switch targets to adds and weren't using all the tools they had to slow the adds. Smart DD beats high dps imo...DD are much more than damage these days.

[Mufasaprime]

the only time i initiate a kick to a dps is when i (the tank) am pulling more dps then you and your still alive

[Kelzam]

LOL, you're cool

He's got an Insane Clown Posse avatar, shouldn't that say enough?

[Stevoman]

I kick any DPS that isn't up to snuff, doesn't mean I expect them to match my 18-20k, but if they're at 4-6k GTFO. No reason to be sub 8k as I was breaking 10k on December 7th/8th in my first heroics.

Even 8k is generous...my guild runs average as LEAST 15k, one of ours pulled 24k in ToT last night. Heck I pulled 14k on the last boss as a tank and I was still bottom.

[Yoshimiko]

Being useful > Dps.

MCing that add who would otherwise wipe us right when stuff gets hairy, Hunter/Shammys not dpsing the boss and eating the last tick of Shadow Gale to lay down trap/earth binding ASAP, etc etc I would favor far over someone pulling 15k dps.

18k dps on a tank and spank in a 5man is not normal. Even BIS gear people can't pull this without proper groups. You really can't expect people to pull 10k dps. My lock pulls 15k dps on Algaloth, but put me in heroics and I plumit to 8-12k dps, fight dependant. Too many variables to put a staple dps requirement.

[rat]

Even 8k is generous...my guild runs average as LEAST 15k, one of ours pulled 24k in ToT last night. Heck I pulled 14k on the last boss as a tank and I was still bottom.

You do higher DPS in better gear?

Holy shit who knew?!

Don't try and pretend your whole guild group was doing 18k DPS in heroics, fresh out of regular dungeons. Just... don't.

[eightohfive]

I kick any DPS that isn't up to snuff, doesn't mean I expect them to match my 18-20k, but if they're at 4-6k GTFO. No reason to be sub 8k as I was breaking 10k on December 7th/8th in my first heroics.

Cool story surv hunter/DK

[Tripping]

And first HC in i get kicked third pull. (was dps)
Just thought it funny, people will apparently take any chance to kick someone if they arent top dps. Jeez i've been carrying scrubs on my shaman for weeks and never initiated a votekick.

Probably broke CC

[h00z0r]

as a healer, i agree with yoshimiko. also: i dont really care if you 100k dps - if you stand in fire to eke out that most possible dps, you get no heals from me, and dead players do 0 dps

[Pascal]

the only time i initiate a kick to a dps is when i (the tank) am pulling more dps then you and your still alive

If I did this I'd kick tons of people. Absolute tons of people.

But yeah, some people bias-kick based on class. Most people won't kick a bloodlust/magelust, but DPS warriors do nothing except DPS and interrupt (which you only need on...like two encounters, spanned across every heroic.)

I don't kick DPS for being bad. Especially not casters. Your general pug casters tend to just pull less DPS in heroics than melee, and it's always been that way.