Is your ten man loot getting wasted?

[boubadoo]

Serious question here and please realize this isnt QQ. I would like to know if anyone has seen an increase in wasted drops. My guild got started way latebut we are up and rolling and getting bosses down, 5/12. yes i know its not impressive. We get no loot to use for our ten man raid. Incineratus is all for the guild. Everything gets sharded. We were down a mage pugged a hunter cloth drops. I help a friends guild with an alt and they were the ones that brought it to my attention after a conclave kill produced 2 shards.

Is it because its ten man? I always did 25s and spare time 10 mans till this xpac. never noticed what we sharded before because we had 25man gear.


Would like to know if anyone else has noticed or if its just a little bad luck. And yes i know about bad luck 36 boss kills that dropped a 226 lvl ranged weapon with no drop till sirens cry in ulduar.


Edit after 20 posts*** I would like to add that we arent geared. We are in crafted and justice point gear. I dual weild soulblades but i bought them. It seems everyone agrees so far that its a gigantic waste of loot.
I now raise the question is it because of teh shared loot table? Im also curious to know how hard would it be to have specialization drops? Meaning we all have armor speializations so if there wasnt one in the raid it wouldnt drop?
Also I dont mind sharding somoething if its already being worn. Thats what happens when you get geared.
Im really surprised everyone seems to have this problem.

[kronpas]

We dont have hunter, no warr, no rogue and our only shammy somtimes desnt show up, so basically all ranged dps weapons & some mail agi stuffs are wasted everytime they drops. It was worse in WotLK 10 though, so to me its not too bad.

[Groot]

We shard at least one item per boss, usually. Only on rare occasions are both items taken.

[Shamburger]

We have the same hunter loot drop every week. Our hunter was ilvl 359 before anyone else in the raid broke 350. No exaggeration.

[vandenn]

Same issues here! Our hunter has had quite a few drops, but as we've had no rogue/kitty/enh shaman, anything else with agility is sharded.

We also DE a lot of cloth spirit loot, and find ourselves giving tank loot to myself (Frost DK) and our holy paladin for offsets.

It's standard to shard one item per boss, it's not unheard of to shard both.

We're at a similar level of progression as the OP, and originally held off on facing Ascendant Council until we geared up a bit more... not helping when our loot is lousy!

[PBitt]

Yeah....we actually have a pretty good comp (10 man) only thing that gets 100% wasted is spellpower leather as we have zero druids. However, we do get a shitload of the same drops...Omnitron drops the rogue leather shoulders and or the cloth helm every week, and we've killled it many times now...still havn't seen a few items on the loot table. We actually have two hunters and not a single piece of hunter loot has dropped in BWD minus the Omnitron chest which has dropped once....though we have had slightly better luck in BoT. RNG is RNG, I guess, and its definetely a drawback for 10 man....some people may get lucky and get the drops they want early but everyone else takes a while to gear up...IMO its a reasonable enough sacrifice to not have to deal with the organization of a 25 man guild....and it makes it that much more awesome when you actually win an item in 10 man that you've been waiting for.

[Serane]

We shard at least one item per boss, usually. Only on rare occasions are both items taken.

this is the same for my guild, last week we didn't have any takers on the loot that dropped 2/3 bosses we downed.

[Deleted]

We normally run with a bit strange setup, so we get pieces dissed, even with offspecs and all... Magmaw mace drops about every week... everyone who can use it has it.

We have no warrior, rogue or hunter (and our Warlock is a bit on/off) at the moment, and we normally run with 2 DKs, 1-2 Paladins, 1-2 Druids, 2-3 Priests, 1-2 Mages and Shaman, so there's a lot of loot "wasted". Our druids have "full" gear for all 3 trees. =)

We can't really recruit more people as we have really solid core group, it's just that few of our members have some other duties at the moment, so we need to run it like this.

That third piece of loot would've been nice in 10-man.

[Airwaves]

Same issues here! Our hunter has had quite a few drops, but as we've had no rogue/kitty/enh shaman, anything else with agility is sharded.

We also DE a lot of cloth spirit loot, and find ourselves giving tank loot to myself (Frost DK) and our holy paladin for offsets.

It's standard to shard one item per boss, it's not unheard of to shard both.

We're at a similar level of progression as the OP, and originally held off on facing Ascendant Council until we geared up a bit more... not helping when our loot is lousy!

So are u who i think u are Vandenn? because i think i am this hunter

[aqthedruid]

10 man loot might seem more wasted because there is lower chance of people that need the gear.

My guild does 10 man and we are lucky if both items that dropped arent sharded.

[superbattler]

this past week ended with quite a few pieces ending as shards...largley due to the lack of rogues/feral druids...and alot of agi leather >.<

[KassieDS]

Have this problem on 25 actually. Just so much poorly itemised gear that drops every week getting sharded.

Even some of the good loot has dropped so many times it just gets sharded. We've had 2 of the 372 offhands of halfus every week for 6 weeks now and it's getting ridiculous.

[stryla]

We have been doing at least 6/12 for the past several weeks and have seen almost entirely mail drops. 0 pieces of caster plate or leather, 2 pieces of dps plate, and several trinkets. Even though we have 3 mail wearers, we are to the point where its getting DEd because they have it all. Its ...saddening

[seam]

Every week, 8 of the 13 bosses we kill drop Agi mail gear.

We don't have a hunter, and both Shamans(Myself one of them) don't have an Enhance offspec.

...q_q

But to answer another question, yes, it's mostly because it's 10 man. 10 mans usually have more things DE'd anyway, but since they share the 25m loot table there is a wider spread of the kinds of items, which leads to getting more gear you don't need.

[Calon]

We've DE'd or Off-speced well over 60-70% of our 10 man loot. =/

[Omarian]

Our guild has a problem with drops from our raids in 10mans aswell. Some items have dropped Every.Single. week. Whilest others haven't dropped once. The hood that drops from Omnitron for instance dropped 5 times already. Good thing we could make a use of it 3 times, but then again, 2 times DE'd and no usefull loot. 75% of the loot that drops in our raids is just DE material. 10% goes to OS, that keeps like 2-3 drops per week!! (keeping tier parts out of question)

Though this is not hurting our progress, We are server 2nd way ahead of everyone else, and will continue doing so. BUT I see people from other lower guilds who are full epic while I'm still walking around with 4 blue items, just because of the simple fact we got shit loot. Or an enhancement shaman with the ONLY USEFULL MH from Nef, dual wielding that because he's the luckiest son of a bitch alive, me walking with some shitty blue mace.

[Merin]

Only annoyance is the (lack of) tier tokens. I don't think it would break the game to allow two tier tokens to drop from applicable bosses, especially considering it's harder content, just one perk for less than a handful of bosses

[twopac187]

Honestly it's not too much better on 25 mans at this point. We killed 9 bosses on Tuesday and 5 of them dropped 3x of one item with most of those duplicates getting sharded. Really getting tired of the 3x drops. It was cool at the start when everyone needed stuff, but it got really old really quick.

[Omarian]

25man is easy anyways.

[Aqua]

Yes. I've been trying fruitlessly to convince my guild mates that switching back to 25man raiding would be beneficiary in the long run but my calls are going unheeded (We have over 34 raiders, more than enough) This 2 10man group rotation thing we're doing is wasting loot and time I feel.

And even though we have enough for 3 groups, the remaining people's heart isn't in it because we lack the able raid leaders for such an endeavour.

It really sucks and It's doing my head in to see so much needed gear get disenchanted or wasted in some other way on rarely used off specs when someone who didn't get to raid that night desperately needed it.