Avengers shield misses..... ALOT

[Sunnydee]

Hello there fellow players of the light, i got an issue regarding AS and amount of hits, i keep missing with this ability INSANLY much, yes im mostly doing 5man heroic right now but this is a major starting threat issue, should i reforge into hit or something ( like exp>hit) due to this?

im currently on 2.81% hit and i checked recount for this and i did 51x AS and i missed 32 of em :I bad RNG or shud i get some more hit?

[Serendipity_09]

As the Prot Pally thread on EJ points out, you should reforge back into hit/exp if you are having threat issues, but keep in mind that AS isn't your only threat builder. Shield of the Righteous is your top priority, using a judge and a divine plea for an instant 3HoPo followed by a SotR should put you nicely in the lead. I have about the same amount of hit as you and I am tanking raids, so threat shouldn't be too much of an issues (Note we don't have a hunter and our rogue, much to my dismay, doesn't tricks of the trade me) Perhaps looking at your priority queue would help with threat more. For Single it is Taunt, CS, Judge, CS, AS, CS, SotR. That is ideal of course, not missing any CS's but more or less the "rotation" we follow. I do not know if I am allowed to post to other forums so I say just poke around EJ and MMO champ, they both have awesome tanking guides.

[Deleted]

Get some hit if you need the threat. I have the same problem with my DK...I misses 5(!) DS in a row yesterday on Schimaeron.

[Methox]

Tbh, if your only doing 5man heroics you can reforge to the hit/exp cap.. Only in raids you should max out survivability.. Your all paladin, use your CD's if it gets nasty..

[Deleted]

It's really funny when I throw AS, I hit the first guy, then it bounces, misses, goes miles away at high speed, and boomerangs into a 3rd guy! xD

But on topic:
Being tank also means you gotta hitcap! Good thing the char sheet maths out how much rating you need, but surely you weren't expecting to stack only defensive stats.

[melzas]

Get some hit if you need the threat. I have the same problem with my DK...I misses 5(!) DS in a row yesterday on Schimaeron.

Chimaeron casts this:
Caustic Slime
Chance to hit with attacks and spells reduced by 75%.
2 seconds remaining

[Nillo]

Chimaeron casts this:
Caustic Slime
Chance to hit with attacks and spells reduced by 75%.
2 seconds remaining

Which doesn't hit tanks....

[Dillybear]

well at the moment if you ever have to interupt you should get hit capped, i as a warrior reforge to get hit cap, after the interupt change you should just do what you think to feel comfortabel, if you never lose agro dont worry about misses/dodges/parries, but if that can be an issue then reforge for it. just feel lucky u get 10 free expert as a warrior i have 3 =/

[Maven]

Which doesn't hit tanks....

Does in feud, and he probably was in feud eating those to fail 5 in a row.

[Tomma]

It's really funny when I throw AS, I hit the first guy, then it bounces, misses, goes miles away at high speed, and boomerangs into a 3rd guy! xD

But on topic:
Being tank also means you gotta hitcap! Good thing the char sheet maths out how much rating you need, but surely you weren't expecting to stack only defensive stats.

Ofc you should go ALL def stats. I have 1% hit and Zero exp (even stopped using the 10 exp glyph) and have no problem what so ever with holding agro in raids. Sure I do miss alot of spells but overtime I still manage to hold agro easily. If you have problem at the start have a rogue or hunter help you out. Your task is 2 things. Hold agro and mitigate dmg. If you can do that who cares if you miss alot of spells

kittycovox, you say you miss alot but the real question is do you have trouble keeping agro? If the answer is no I wouldn't waste any time stacking up hit.

[blahssat]

Get used to missing/dodges/parry. Once you get into content that actually matters, you will find yourself dropping threat stats wherever available just so you can live longer due to the insane amount of damage received in hard modes. I'm rocking an entire 1% hit and 3 expertise on my warrior while stacking as much avoidance and stamina as possible for chimeron. It gets really nasty when he feuds early and I still have breaks on me (I soak double attacks, and I tank during feud while our pala has 5 breaks almost the entire fight). I need as much health and avoidance as I can get so I don't get gibbed. The first 30 seconds of the fight is always really shaky because threat is unpredictable, but once its established, its all about the tank living.

If you aren't on hard modes though, then by all means, reforge avoidance into threat, or gem for it. But dont gimp your avoidance so bad that your healers complain.

[Maven]

0.60% hit here bitches, you will find trouble in some bosses maybe like Maloriak seeing how the adds HUNGER for the Holy Paladin and you will go all "Imma avenger's shield them" and the Avenger's shield goes into Atramedes room and never comes back.

Even in this case you shouldn't stack hit/exp, we've 2 taunts and one of them is 3 targets so use them, if you stack hit the Maloriak adds will go al "LAKÑHJGAPOEÑLJKMAPOÑJLKP" on you and you will die instantly, so did (DID BECAUSE NOW IS A JOKE) Heroic Halfus with the stacks and drakes, I've never stacked hit or exp and I had to face a 30k/second combustion in all the adds since the beggining.

[davesurfer]

If you raid and do 5 mans, do not reforge to make 5 mans work better. Who cares if you miss in a 5 man, you should be able to get it back easily. BUT if you still are worried about 5 mans, throw on DPS +hit trinkets.

For the Council fight I got the frost dude, which hits like a girl, so I throw on hit trinkets to make sure I don't miss a Hydrolance (which will not be needed in 4.1 yeah)

[Sting]

Does in feud, and he probably was in feud eating those to fail 5 in a row.

Only if you group up with the rest, since caustic slimes can't target tanks it's better to stay away from the main group.

[Sunnydee]

hmm alot of different aproaches here.. think il slap on the hit trinket from HoO and reforge some to mastery for survival!

thanks for da info all

[Cernunnos]

If only avenger's shield was considered an interrupt like mind freeze, pummel or kick.

All non-damaging interrupts off the global cooldown will now always hit the target. This includes Pummel, Shield Bash, Kick, Mind Freeze, Rebuke, Skull Bash, Counterspell, Wind Shear, Solar Beam, Silencing Shot, and related player pet abilities.

Seems to be the only interrupt not on the list. but then again, AS isn't off the GCD.

[Abandon]

If only avenger's shield was considered an interrupt like mind freeze, pummel or kick.

All non-damaging interrupts off the global cooldown will now always hit the target. This includes Pummel, Shield Bash, Kick, Mind Freeze, Rebuke, Skull Bash, Counterspell, Wind Shear, Solar Beam, Silencing Shot, and related player pet abilities.

Seems to be the only interrupt not on the list. but then again, AS isn't off the GCD.

Well, they did say all non-damaging off the GCD attacks, and Avengers Shield does damage and is on the GCD.

[theonegod]

It's really funny when I throw AS, I hit the first guy, then it bounces, misses, goes miles away at high speed, and boomerangs into a 3rd guy! xD

But on topic:
Being tank also means you gotta hitcap! Good thing the char sheet maths out how much rating you need, but surely you weren't expecting to stack only defensive stats.

Don't listen to Diezel. He is completely wrong. If you are trying to cap or in fact, if you are working on hit or exp at all then you are bad.

[aqthedruid]

Get some hit if you need the threat. I have the same problem with my DK...I misses 5(!) DS in a row yesterday on Schimaeron.

The reason you miss if you dont have enough hit...

But right now all the guides i have read was dont worry about hit that much as survivability

[mordale]

anyone else read the title and immediately think "Captain* America needs more hit"?


*is that part of his name or his rank in the military?