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    Wrongfully accused?

    I don't usually post on the forums, mostly read.But after what i just experienced i would greatly appreciate some feedback.I was in a ZA tanking on my feral druid (with pugs) and a 353ilvl cloak dropped.Seeing that i currently had a 346ilvl one equipped i thought that with abit of reforging it would be a nice upgrade.So i needed with a hunter as competition and of course i won immediatelly starting a flame war , with everyone calling me a bad player etc etc.Now i realise it may not be the ideal tanking cloak but was there any reason to be flamed so badly?

    ps. sorry i can't post links yet so here are the stats on the cloaks.
    Recovered Cloak of Frostheim
    the 353ilvl cloak :
    604 armor
    180 agi
    270 stam
    117 hit
    122 haste

    Twitching Shadows
    the 346ilvl cloak:
    580 armor
    168 agi
    252 stam
    112 crit
    112 haste
    Last edited by mmoc99b2d6c076; 2011-05-08 at 02:55 PM.

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    It's perfectly fine for Druid tanking. Agi and Stam are what matter most.

    DPS just get pissed when they have to compete with a non-DPS for loot.
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    I don't see a problem tbh. More armor, more stam, more agi; although the hit and haste aren't really perfect for you, there's still the upgrade to agi/stam/armor, which outweighs that with reforging.

    What was the hunter wearing, the BoA cloak? lol

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    I'd say yes. Usually Tanking items in general have agi on them for tanking. Ideally hit/exp/crit/mastery are the 4 stats but haste is nice for threat generation too.

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    who cares upgrades are upgrades and its only heroic loot

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    Welllll, hit is useless to you, and there are better cloaks out there for you, so the polite thing to do would be to wait until your cloak dropped. It was kind of a not-nice thing to do, seeing as even reforging would leave you with some of a useless stat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilianah View Post
    Welllll, hit is useless to you, and there are better cloaks out there for you, so the polite thing to do would be to wait until your cloak dropped. It was kind of a not-nice thing to do, seeing as even reforging would leave you with some of a useless stat.
    An upgrade is an upgrade.
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    With something like that you can just ignore them or report and let them sit in a corner for an hour or more. I don't know much about bear tanks but the stats are the same and better other then the hit/crit so why can't you have it? Expect that of hunters tho, they like to roll on everything and tantrum over it.

    Edit: people will get pedantic over stats, *shrug* an up is an up
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    It's a clear upgrade. More armor, agi and stamina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilianah View Post
    Welllll, hit is useless to you, and there are better cloaks out there for you, so the polite thing to do would be to wait until your cloak dropped. It was kind of a not-nice thing to do, seeing as even reforging would leave you with some of a useless stat.
    Incase I've missed something, why is hit useless to him/her?

    and yeah, it's perfectly fine, a better upgrade and the party are just being idiots.

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    Don't worry, my low level hunter just had a belt ninjaed off of. By a Prot Warrior. Yes, because he really needed that agility/crit mail belt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moogogaipan View Post
    With something like that you can just ignore them or report and let them sit in a corner for an hour or more. I don't know much about bear tanks but the stats are the same and better other then the hit/crit so why can't you have it? Expect that of hunters tho, they like to roll on everything and tantrum over it.

    Edit: people will get pedantic over stats, *shrug* an up is an up
    lol @ this post, not commenting on the main issue because you wouldn't listen to me anyway, you've obviously made up your mind, but this quote is funny.

    It's a clear upgrade except half the stats haha!

    PS: If you're a tank and have any hit on your gear that isn't reforged off, you're bad. You should avoid getting hit on your gear in the first place.
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    It sounds like the people in your group do not know how feral druid tanks work. While crit is better than hit for you, the other cloak has more armor, more stamina, more agility, and more potential for reforging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilianah View Post
    Welllll, hit is useless to you, and there are better cloaks out there for you, so the polite thing to do would be to wait until your cloak dropped. It was kind of a not-nice thing to do, seeing as even reforging would leave you with some of a useless stat.
    I disagree with you. The hit isn't COMPLETELY useless, plus it can be reforged. It was a direct upgrade to agi and stam which are a druid tank's best stats. Sure there are better cloaks out there for tanking. But that is true for the hunter as well. It was needed by both, both could roll, both did roll, the tank won. End of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilianah View Post
    Welllll, hit is useless to you, and there are better cloaks out there for you, so the polite thing to do would be to wait until your cloak dropped. It was kind of a not-nice thing to do, seeing as even reforging would leave you with some of a useless stat.
    You realize that the pool of cloaks for Bear tanks and hunters is the same? This, the Valor point cloak, and a BOE that still goes for 15kish are the only upgrades that either player has. The VP cloak also has hit on it by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilianah View Post
    Welllll, hit is useless to you, and there are better cloaks out there for you, so the polite thing to do would be to wait until your cloak dropped. It was kind of a not-nice thing to do, seeing as even reforging would leave you with some of a useless stat.
    This cloak is an upgrade, what THEY did wasn't nice. He played the game, and shouldn't be faulted for it.

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    Do not worry about it. This was a upgrade for you and you won it fair and square. If it ever happens again (hopefully not) just tell them "Less QQ More Pew Pew"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conditional View Post
    Incase I've missed something, why is hit useless to him/her?

    and yeah, it's perfectly fine, a better upgrade and the party are just being idiots.
    Well, hit, haste and expertise are all basically dump stats for bear tanks; the benefits they bring (if they even do, I'm looking at you haste!) are sooo small at the current level of play compared to crit, mastery and dodge that it simply isn't worth wasting the stat points on them.

    Threat isn't an issue thanks to vengeance at the moment.
    Hit means virtually nothing after the first few seconds as a direct result of this (plus interrupts can't miss now).
    For expertise, see hit (there is no parry haste any more).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilianah View Post
    Welllll, hit is useless to you, and there are better cloaks out there for you, so the polite thing to do would be to wait until your cloak dropped. It was kind of a not-nice thing to do, seeing as even reforging would leave you with some of a useless stat.
    what other drop should i be waiting for? from the 353 lvl items? the rest of you , thanks for your replyes.I was pretty much thinking the same but i felt i would make sure.

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    An upgrade is an upgrade OP seemed like your group didn't know how a feral tank geared

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