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    Poor people complaining about new service

    Why are people complaining about this new real ID thing? They don't even know how much it's going to cost and they are already whining. If you don't have enough money to pay for something that's your problem, don't whine and ask for it to be free, it's pathetic. Someone explain what all the rage is for.

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    "How is having or not having a job relevant in any way to how one would take on this new "feature"? This boggles me by a lot. Just because one has money and job has to mean that he is also willing to fork it out like a sheep following shepherd?

    Why are people so hell-bent on defending a multi-billion company against a critique it's methods create? Think they can't handle it by themselves? I sure would be glad when swimming in money if someone rose up for free to defend me while I create more and more money-sinks for people to spill their money.

    And as for people claiming people not working, if you earn your money through work, wouldn't you be rather careful and considerate how you spend it, rather than using it as a card of "lol no buy, no work" and be critical onto what kind of features the company tries to feed off you? "

    While this particular thread isn't about jobs but money, this is still fairly fitting.
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    People are complaining because the idea of yet another paid service to be able to play with your friends scares us. Blizzard has said they want to encourage playing with friends, yet you need to pay through the nose in order to do so. Yes, you can rereoll, but you would be giving up your main to do so. So thats not a very viable option for people who have put 5+ yrs into 1 char.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    "How is having or not having a job relevant in any way to how one would take on this new "feature"? This boggles me by a lot. Just because one has money and job has to mean that he is also willing to fork it out like a sheep following shepherd?

    Why are people so hell-bent on defending a multi-billion company against a critique it's methods create? Think they can't handle it by themselves? I sure would be glad when swimming in money if someone rose up for free to defend me while I create more and more money-sinks for people to spill their money.

    And as for people claiming people not working, if you earn your money through work, wouldn't you be rather careful and considerate how you spend it, rather than using it as a card of "lol no buy, no work" and be critical onto what kind of features the company tries to feed off you? "

    While this particular thread isn't about jobs but money, this is still fairly fitting.
    I am critical on it, and guess what? I think it's worth it.

    I make WoW's monthly subscription cost in an hour's pay. However, that doesn't mean I am careless with my cash. That post essentially created a false dichotomy in that the only options are...

    A. Bitch and whine, and don't pay for it
    B. Suck up Blizzard's crap and pay for it

    Great. It's nowhere near that at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKingofBears View Post
    Why are people complaining about this new real ID thing? They don't even know how much it's going to cost and they are already whining. If you don't have enough money to pay for something that's your problem, don't whine and ask for it to be free, it's pathetic. Someone explain what all the rage is for.
    You don't get it, friend. It's about the principle, not about the amount. It might as well be 5 cents, they're not keeping their word, and that's what really matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaneiac View Post
    I am critical on it, and guess what? I think it's worth it.

    I make WoW's monthly subscription cost in an hour's pay. However, that doesn't mean I am careless with my cash. That post essentially created a false dichotomy in that the only options are...

    A. Bitch and whine, and don't pay for it
    B. Suck up Blizzard's crap and pay for it

    Great. It's nowhere near that at all.
    And as such it was not aimed at you, but for the people who claim that the only reason people oppose this is because they are poor, living on benefits and have no job.
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    People are complaining because Battle.net was supposed to be about connecting people and letting them play together. Now they're monetizing aspects of it.

    If this comes to pass, they'll have carte blanche to monetize anything. PTR access? Pay us $5. Authenticator use? $1 extra a month. Bigger backpack? You need the WoW Gold account, it's $2 more a month.

    And they'll still be charging you triple-A prices for your subscription and expansions.

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    It's not about the affordability. It's the principle of the thing.
    It's the community's disgust in WoW slowly making more and more features which require payment, even though we're paying a monthly sub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    You don't get it, friend. It's about the principle, not about the amount. It might as well be 5 cents, they're not keeping their word, and that's what really matters.
    And what word is that? Enlighten me.

    But do it with a blue, not some shit you make up on the spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    And as such it was not aimed at you, but for the people who claim that the only reason people oppose this is because they are poor, living on benefits and have no job.
    It was more in response to the middle paragraph.

    Otherwise, I agree with the rest of it. The entire concept of "people who are bitching are poor!" is tired and was tired when they introduced the Celestial Steed. It's a stupid argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    You don't get it, friend. It's about the principle, not about the amount. It might as well be 5 cents, they're not keeping their word, and that's what really matters.
    What word? I keep seeing people say "Blizzard gave their word, WTF?". What did Blizzard say that would make this so bad? Sources matter as well.

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    It's a "Premium" feature... i.e. - I'm guessing it's the €3 a month, alongside the AH/Guild chat/etc on ye phone.

    Regardless, people's stance has NOTHING to do with being poor [you're an idiot if you assume so...], but the fact that we're already paying for a monthly subscription... yet Blizz are adopting a Micro transaction model that F2P MMOs have been doing for years ontop of that.

    That, and the matter of the Read ID thing being far more useful... and should have been present since day 1 of Real ID being introduced as standard, than the perks of AH'ing or Guild chat off your phone.
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    The thing is it's not really up to the playerbase to decide whether it should be free or not, that comes down to everyone's individual opinion, and they aren't forcing you to buy it, it's up to you whether to buy it or not. And if you want something but can't afford it you don't ask for it to be free, you either find a way to get the cash or shut up.

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    It is a service which development was funded by the monthly fees of everybody. Thus it should be available according to that. We pay after all for new features, content and to maintain the quality of service. The reason for the rage is Blizz says: "Look we have made this new stuff from your money, and while you basically paid for it, we are going to ask for an extra fee"

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    and here come the counter-threads about the issue, thus fueling it. :/

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    First I dont care if they charge or not and most ppl seem to be complaining just to do so. Its not an issue of being poor or not its not wanting to pay for something ppl feel for whatever real or misguided reason they shoudln't have to. Being frugal with money isn't normally a habit of poor ppl also its normally one used by rich ppl its part of they way they actaully became rich. If you think a product or severice is worth a set price and somebody wants more then that not wanting to or being willing to pay it is a smart money management not a result of being poor.
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    What am I already paying for if not new features? To me this is a move in the wrong direction.

    This is unacceptable.

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    my response to the whole masses of people crying about the new feature being a paid premium: it offers NO advantage over someone who is not paying for it, much like all the other pets, mounts, and stupid crap you can pay for to feel like you're in an exclusive club for WoW.

    "Oh but if people can play with their friends by paying, then they'll kick ass in instances while I have to play with random bad people because I don't want to pay, wahhhhh", OH NO, you could resolve this problem by joining a guild, grouping with people from your server and making friends, but come on, who socializes anymore?

    now be quiet before blizzard gets angry and reverts it back to vanilla days, no realID, a very limited ignore list, and a limited friends list as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKingofBears View Post
    The thing is it's not really up to the playerbase to decide whether it should be free or not, that comes down to everyone's individual opinion, and they aren't forcing you to buy it, it's up to you whether to buy it or not. And if you want something but can't afford it you don't ask for it to be free, you either find a way to get the cash or shut up.
    Fuck that.

    Imagine going to a pay-to-enter amusement park and having to pay extra money at the rides if you want to sit next to your friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexdominus View Post
    What am I already paying for if not new features? To me this is a move in the wrong direction.

    This is unacceptable.
    Your account.

    You get features for free every 4-5 months, if you've been under a rock, though. They're called content patches.

    Quote Originally Posted by quran View Post
    Fuck that.

    Imagine going to a pay-to-enter amusement park and having to pay extra money at the rides if you want to sit next to your friends.
    Imaging the same one, but instead of needing to pay extra to sit with friends, you have to pay extra to teleport them from across the country.

    You know, since you can already sit with friends who are already there.

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