Casting speed = Haste?

[Pontificate]

God help me, I went Goblin despite my irrational hatred of short things. Last time I looked, the racial was 1% haste increase, but now it's casting speed? What's the difference? I'm kinda regretting it already but both of the other spriests are Goblin, and we're working on heroic crap so I'm trying to be the best I can.

[Venziir]

It's never been 1% haste, but always 1% speed increase. Honestly, I don't really know the difference :s

[Arlee]

Check out aura #2

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=69042

It is actually 1% more haste.

More infos here too http://www.howtopriest.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=184

[Scuravolpe]

"1% increase to casting and attack speed."

That's +1% haste. They just said it with more words.

[Deleted]

casting speed does not reduce your gcd while haste does

[Arlee]

casting speed does not reduce your gcd while haste does

Except if you look at the auras applied Aura #2 is haste.

[Deleted]

Also troll is a better DPS racial than Goblin.

[Deleted]

Because if it had said 1% haste increase it could sound like if you had 500 haste rating, you'd gain 5 extra from the racial, rather than an actual 1% haste increase.

[Deleted]

Except if you look at the auras applied Aura #2 is haste.

im not saying the racial is not 1% haste
im saying that 1% haste is not the same as 1% casting speed

[Sinuhe]

Effect #2 Apply Aura: Mod Spell Haste %
Value: 1

It is 1% haste, nothing less, nothing more and depends on your class if goblin is best or something else. Don't listen to these defender of shattered champion of frozen wastes v2 priests and stuff but instead go examine on your own class and make conclusions... Here you find nothing but narrow sighted trolls who lean towards their own class....

[Dark_Spirit]

Yes, it is haste.

Also troll is a better DPS racial than Goblin.

Not really.

[Scuravolpe]

im not saying the racial is not 1% haste
im saying that 1% haste is not the same as 1% casting speed

Yes it is.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Casting_speed
http://www.wowpedia.org/Haste

[Arlee]

Here you find nothing but narrow sighted trolls who lean towards their own class....

Huh? This is a Priest forums... and the discussion is about a race and not a class... so I am not sure what your point is with that statement....

[Deleted]

Yes it is.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Casting_speed
http://www.wowpedia.org/Haste

no it isn't.
2nd link, 1st line

Haste increases attack speed and casting speed.

Now read the title of this thread, now read this post

[Deleted]

On the topic of troll vs goblin:

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=26297/berserking

10 sec every 3 min or 180 sec.
1/18 uptime.

20 * 1/18 = 1.111 etc. So even if you just used it on CD it'd be better. Now, take into account that you can use it intelligently - i.e. with other buffs such as every other Dark Archangel, it becomes far better than a static 1%.

[Tural]

Yes it is.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Casting_speed
http://www.wowpedia.org/Haste

Haste affects Casting Speed, Casting Speed does not affect Haste. They are separate effects in the game ratings.

Berserking, for example, is not a haste buff - it is a flat speed reduction.
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=26297

Decrease Attack Speed % vs. Mod Spell Haste %

[Zodisius]

This discussion has been taken care of in other thread and it always comes down to this. Yes, the troll racial, on a spread sheet, is better than the goblin racial. People don't take into account that X can happen where you have to stop dps and do something where the troll racial becomes completely useless. Now the goblin racial becomes better. So, congratulations! Everyone who said the goblin racial was the best is right, and everyone who said the troll racial is the best is right.

OT: 1% attack speed ends up being 1% Haste.

[Arlee]

This discussion has been taken care of in other thread and it always comes down to this. Yes, the troll racial, on a spread sheet, is better than the goblin racial. People don't take into account that X can happen where you have to stop dps and do something where the troll racial becomes completely useless. Now the goblin racial becomes better. So, congratulations! Everyone who said the goblin racial was the best is right, and everyone who said the troll racial is the best is right.

OT: 1% attack speed ends up being 1% Haste.

.... Unless priests are suddenly doing melee the attack speed thing is completely besides the point. This thread has randomly gotten side tracked with a discussion of troll vs goblin which isn't what the OP was asking in the first place.

[Pontificate]

I considered Troll, Priestly but frankly was not sure if I wanted the extra complication, got a lot of stuff going on multidotting, mirror, dmc, etc. I may try it though, I probably have more money than skill lol.

[h3lladvocate]

1% Casting Speed - Permanently increases you casting speed by 1%. Meaning if you had 0 haste rating, you'd still have 1% casting speed(i.e. 1% haste), also does not increase melee haste obviously.

1% Haste - Increases your haste rating by 1%, so at 0 haste rating you'd get no benefit. Affects Casting Speed and Melee Speed.

They made it this way so A. it scales the same if they change haste rating coefficients(new expansion or just felt like it) and B. so no matter your current haste level, you always get a linear return on 1% from the racial. Hope that clears things up.