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  1. #21
    You are 10x better off buying/building a middle to high end machine over a top of line machine....you are just paying for the research and development for a very small gain.


    2x $1250 computers in 1 year >>>>> 1 $2500 every 1 year
    2x $1250 computers in 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 $2500 every 2 years

    Unless you just got a lot of money to blow...
    Last edited by morbidjbyrd; 2011-08-23 at 06:12 PM.

  2. #22
    you can read this for some better "real world" application info regarding your video card questions.


    That's only the 1.5 gig 580. You would see better results at super-high (30" monitor) res that what is noted in that benchmark.
    Last edited by Dazzlefraz; 2011-08-23 at 06:16 PM.


  3. #23
    should I get a heatsink for the processor or not?
    Last edited by Knight978; 2011-08-23 at 06:22 PM.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Knight978 View Post
    So is the i7 2600k not worth getting over the i5 2500k?

    ---------- Post added 2011-08-23 at 02:22 PM ----------

    should I get a heatsink for the processor or not?
    Way better option than dual video cards or dual monitors
    Just use the one that comes with the processor....another waste.

  5. #25
    it's the same thing as the 970 vs 2600k argument. The 2600k is only better if you're running any multi-threaded applications. Games do not apply. If you plan on using the computer only for gaming, the 2600k is no better than the 2500k. Unless somehow you can manage to do some Photoshopping in between frags...


  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by uggorthaholy View Post
    case - HAF X - $170.00
    CPU - i5 2500k - $220.00
    heatsink - noctua nh-d14 - $86.00
    mobo - MSi Z68 - $240.00
    Ram - 8GB sniper 1600X2 - $110.00
    GPU - MSi Twin Frozr 3GB GTX 580 - $600.00
    PSU - Corsair 1000 watt 80+ modular - $250.00
    HDD - Spinpoint - $60.00
    OS - Win 7 premium - $100.00
    Keyboard - G510 - $95.00
    mouse - G 700 - $75.00

    Total - $2010.00 - leave you with $500.00 for monitors/SSD. Now idea how to find the nice IPS displays people keep talking about. Generally any 2 23" monitors that have HD will do. Also no clue on SSDs

    If you have a microcenter near you, you will save $80.00 on the CPU/mobo combo (currently running a sale at $180.00 for the i5, and $40.00 off when you buy a cpu/mobo combo)
    Gonna go with this combo and add a ssd and a better monitor then my current one. What is a good SSD/monitor.

  7. #27
    Here is a link to some tests comparing i5 and i7.

    On average the games are about the same, everything else the i7 wins pretty much.
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287

    Here are some spec,
    http://ark.intel.com/compare/52214,52210
    Last edited by morbidjbyrd; 2011-08-23 at 06:42 PM.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Knight978 View Post
    should I get a heatsink for the processor or not?
    Ugg included one in his build... heatsink - noctua nh-d14 - $86.00

    And on that note I'm going to add one more thing. A lot of these things are situational. If you just want to buy the PC, put it together and game with good quality... that's one thing. If you wanna buy the PC, put it together learn a little and start tweaking... that's another. There is no need whatsoever for a heatsink, let alone the massive ass d14 if you're never gonna push your CPU with high overclocks. If you just use turbo boost or the software that comes with the MSI board for overclocking and use the conservative presets...the stock heatsink would probably be more than adequate.

    A lot of the things people spend ridiculous amounts of money on when building PCs offer very little in the way of tangible performance gain...again, like I said, unless you're tweaking like mad and trying to eek every last ounce out of your setup. These aren't the types of things most laymans do as time, effort, and risks involved in doing so just aren't worth it.

    I guess, the point I'm skipping around is this...if you're completely new to building and overclocking...I wouldn't be wasting massive amounts of dollars on equipment you'll probably never use to anywhere near their potential. If you feel that spending all the cash on high end components is justified because you want to learn more about overclocking and tweaking your gear, there's tons of information available everywhere on the internet that can aid you in making proper decisions based upon exactly what you want to accomplish.


  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by morbidjbyrd View Post
    Here is a link to some tests comparing i5 and i7.

    On average the games are about the same, everything else the i7 wins pretty much.
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287

    Here are some spec,
    http://ark.intel.com/compare/52214,52210
    Ok ill just get the i5 then. On another note how much gb in a ssd would I need for w7 os and a few games.

  10. #30
    save yourself the cash and buy a 64gig SSD and run it with Smart Response....owait. xD

    OT: 120-160gig seems to be the norm right about now.


  11. #31
    What is the difference between sata 2 and 3?

  12. #32
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    CDROM isn't included, you can pick what you want there.
    Single video card for now as you're on a single screen (unless I misread something)
    Windows 7 Home Premium is enough for anyone unless they are on a domain or need bitlocker
    SSD is for Intel SRT + 50GB of random data
    850W PSU for SLI 580's later on

    Everything else is pretty self-explanatory and has been covered in this thread already
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