Dragon Ball Z Fan Thread!

[Sal the Shieldhog]

I did the math, if he use the same multipliers as Freeza and Cooler he would be buu saga level

Goddamn, they'd have been wrecked.

[GennGreymane]

rough numbers

form 1 frieza, 500k
form 2 frieza, 1,000,000
form 3 Frieza, ????
form 4 Frieza, 12,000,000
Full Power: 120,000,000

Cooler form 4 and full power (assumed) 100,000,000 (close, but weaker than Frieza) From 5 Cooler around 400,000,000

Form 2 cold is equal to or greater than 120,000,000

times that by 12 like with frieza between his form 2 and 4. 1,440,000,000 now times that for 100% power up 144,000,000,000

now times that by 4 for coolers form to compare

576,000,000,000 is his power if like the saiyans, frieza's race is consistent




BEAST!.

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Most writers do not give Cold too much credit. DBZ multiverse puts his 4th form at around Semi Imperfect cells level.

[Lahis]

Seems about right.

[GennGreymane]

the real debate

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[GennGreymane]

they had around the same power according to everyone on earth when checking out Frieza and his Dads power level.

They are not consistent, I think Bringer of Death and Multiverse have a better idea that he is around the various Cell form levels.

[Immitis]

DRAGONBALL Z KAI IS GOING TO AIR ON TOONAMI @_@

they won. ever since toonami'z comeback that vocal minority is like "iz nat saime" "needz dbz er mah gerd nat toonami no dbz" "dbz or nerthan"

and with vortexx and nicktoons rights expiring and the buu saga getting dubbed and possibly a new series being created toonami was like "fuck it just give them the damn dbz"

i wish they'd make a dragonball kai. i always liked dragon ball more than dbz. oh well guess ill finally get to see all of dbz

[Rendia]

DRAGONBALL Z KAI IS GOING TO AIR ON TOONAMI @_@

they won. ever since toonami'z comeback that vocal minority is like "iz nat saime" "needz dbz er mah gerd nat toonami no dbz" "dbz or nerthan"

and with vortexx and nicktoons rights expiring and the buu saga getting dubbed and possibly a new series being created toonami was like "fuck it just give them the damn dbz"

i wish they'd make a dragonball kai. i always liked dragon ball more than dbz. oh well guess ill finally get to see all of dbz

Kai is not all of DBZ, but I get what you are saying.

[GennGreymane]

[darkvexen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pSmhZFbCy0&feature=kp

thats the second one. check out first

[Zoma]

Near the end they mention that Cooler 2 is coming soon.

[Immitis]

Kai is not all of DBZ, but I get what you are saying.

its the saiyan saga through to the buu saga. so it kind of is O-O

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I guarantee there will be no new series. Not unless TOEI do everything themselves... or offer Toriyama billions of yen to do it, he hates his own series these days. Don't blame him.

Also, didn't FUNimation state they're not dubbing the latest episodes? They stated it after a couple of their VAs said they were though so who really knows. TOEI announced that the latest episodes would be airing in certain countries and the US wasn't among them so either those countries will get the Japanese version or the dub won't be shown in the US. Which would be odd since anything DB-related is wanted by FUNimation for them to milk fans even more lol

everything ive found says its gonna be shown in fall 2014. and didnt toriyama talk alot about how he liked doing dbz again after battle of gods? something about how it was easier just doing the story stuff while other people worried about the designs and stuff or something.

i was under the assumption that after battle of gods he wanted to do more dbz stuff and hes been putting a bunch of dbz stuff in his spin off manga

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he did say this

"What is the meaning of that conclusion…?
I suppose there might be a variety of impressions with regards to the battle’s conclusion…. As far as I’m concerned, I’ll be happy if I can get people to feel “an expansion into [something] afterwards”. Like, “Isn’t there still more to come?” (laughs)"

which implies he wants to do more

[Sal the Shieldhog]

he did say this

"What is the meaning of that conclusion…?
I suppose there might be a variety of impressions with regards to the battle’s conclusion…. As far as I’m concerned, I’ll be happy if I can get people to feel “an expansion into [something] afterwards”. Like, “Isn’t there still more to come?” (laughs)"

which implies he wants to do more

Well, he could just be being a dick (playing devil's advocate here). I know I'd get a laugh or two if I was a big author and led fans on with something like that. I'm sure I'd eventually do something at some point, but maybe he's just tired of it and left himself a way to do more if he ever felt like it again.

Then again, he could just be an asshole. So you never know.

[Rendia]

its the saiyan saga through to the buu saga. so it kind of is O-O

Except it cuts out huge amounts of the show in the process.

There are 98 episodes in Kai through the end of Cell.

While there are 179 in the dubs of DBZ, and 194 in the originals through Cell.

So no, not the entire series, at all.

[Immitis]

Except it cuts out huge amounts of the show in the process.

There are 98 episodes in Kai through the end of Cell.

While there are 179 in the dubs of DBZ, and 194 in the originals through Cell.

So no, not the entire series, at all.

it just cuts out all the filler though.

all of the real dragonball z is still there

[Rendia]

it just cuts out all the filler though.

all of the real dragonball z is still there

Nearly 100 episodes isn't just filler. They basically cut 2 episodes into one throughout the entire series.

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Also, in before "that 100 episodes cut is just screaming".

[Immitis]

Nearly 100 episodes isn't just filler. They basically cut 2 episodes into one throughout the entire series.

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Also, in before "that 100 episodes cut is just screaming".

idk if dragonball z is anything like pokemon when it comes to filler i can easily see 100 episodes being cut out and not noticing a difference

[OrcsRLame]

it just cuts out all the filler though.

all of the real dragonball z is still there

It cuts a lot of fighting.

[Sal the Shieldhog]

It cuts a lot of fighting.

And blood. And the yelling.

Also makes Frieza's "5 minutes" seem more realistic though, so it's got that going for it (disclaimer: sarcasm).

Kai doesn't really do much to enhance DBZ as a whole. It cuts out a lot, makes it more "kid-friendly" (no blood, less fighting, etc), and doesn't add much more than updated animation and voice acting.

[Immitis]

And blood. And the yelling.

Also makes Frieza's "5 minutes" seem more realistic though, so it's got that going for it (disclaimer: sarcasm).

Kai doesn't really do much to enhance DBZ as a whole. It cuts out a lot, makes it more "kid-friendly" (no blood, less fighting, etc), and doesn't add much more than updated animation and voice acting.

arent all the kid friendly stuff from the edited nicktoons and vortexx versions?

i doubt adult swim are going to air the versions that were made for nickelodeon when toonami is for adults now

[Pendulous]

Theory time. At the end of DBZ, Vegeta's idea was to have Earth's people defend itself, hence the spirit bomb. Later, it becomes even more apparent when Uub becomes a thing, and Earth has a warrior capable of standing up to the big evils of the universe. But, technically, Majuub isn't really "homegrown". Earth needs people like Krillin and Yamcha, except ones who are willing to train like Vegeta. So, what do they do?

Come out from hiding, so to speak. Dende, Kami's lookout, and the universe in general become things that are well-known throughout humanity. But there's still no way humans could outperform the saiyans, even with lifelong training. So how does Earth create its own defenders? The hyperbolic time chamber. Remember it was destroyed by Buu. But I don't think just rebuilding it would fix an alternate dimension. That would take the power of the gods. Or, you know, a dragon. Dende got the dragon to fix the hyperbolic time chamber, and, like recreating the dragon itself, refitted it to allow a person to spend more than two days in there. So, between Dende and Popo training normal humans how do deal with things like energy, and spending years (outside world time) in the chamber, the earth has a handful of humans to stop any evil that comes their way. And this group would be led by...Videl! Why not? Retcon GT and the end of DBZ to make her not a wimp, and get her old voice actor back. She's the only human throughout DBZ to really show capability of progressing in the ways of the Z warriors. Krillin could help too, I guess. I'm still not 100% on what Tien is, but we could add him in there.