thats true goku had way more screen time then mewtwo. people keep saying goku speed is to much for mewtwo your probably right but mewtwo can read all his moves then port so he wouldnt even need speed. Goku's might is no match for Mewtwos psychic strength. Goku throws a punch, its deflected. Goku shoots a kai blast, it's absorbed. goku blows up the planet, Mewtwo puts up a life support aura full of oxygen so he can reach another viable planet like namek, while goku is sucking space. GG
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Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler
you missed the part where goku moves faster than a thought is able to occur in ones mind, thus making it impossible for mewtwo to even interpret, let alone react to gokus thoughts.
another thing here would be that goku very much moves and acts by instinct, thus he doesnt think about what hes gonna do next, so theres not even a thought that could be read anyways ~~
another thing that just came to mind: goku probably has a bajillion times more battle experience than mewtwo. i mean c'mon, when did mewtwo ever get challenged in his universe? theres litterally no pokemon that can fight him on equal grounds, while goku had many fights with tough struggles, wich made him grow past his old limits tenfold.
Last edited by Ghul; 2013-01-25 at 04:25 AM.
goku is like a instinctual fighter he does what he feels will work. mewtwo on the other does what he know will work he will know about his speed and easily counter it no problem. if you know your target is faster then you adjust which will be easy for mewtwo because of in insane mental power. mewtwo has enhancesed spider senses basicly
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power lvl is meaningless. spirit bomb takes like 10 mins goku brain would be melted in 0.1 seconds
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If Goku did blow up the planet, he could just use his Instant Transmission to move to a different planet, or a different dimension for that matter, as he is able to move freely between our universe, the afterlife, and the planet of the Kais (aka DBZ Gods). There is also quite a bit of debate as to whether or not Saiyans are actually able to breathe in space, similar to Frieza's race. While Frieza and Goku both believe Goku would have died if he had been on Namek when it blew up, neither know much about Saiyan biology. There have been several scenes showing Saiyans fighting outside of a planet's atmosphere. Of course, whether or not he can is a moot point once we get back to the fact that Goku can teleport.
You're also giving the strength of Mewtwo's shield a lot of credit. Energy Shields and deflection have been used in DBZ, but sooner or later, they get broken.
Goku might be able to beat mewtwo... but he'll never... NEVER... be able to beat The Hulk.
Most likely the wisest Enhancement Shaman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=yGdGJ1XXvTQ#! goku get mindcontroled
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Nobody is talking Kai's here, Goku actually becomes "THE" God (aka the creator). There isn't even an argument for mew-two against that.
Besides i see a hell of a lot of over-stating mew-two's abilities, there is no evidence of any of his powers even being close to what some of you are claiming. Frankly in the movie imo he seems weaker than Raditz.
No. Toriyama doesn't consider it Canon. GT did happen however regardless of what Toriyama objected and the event of Goku leaving with Shenron did happenNo. That's just fan-based conjecture. It's never been confirmed by Akira Toriyama.
Last edited by Fawxey; 2013-01-25 at 04:37 AM.
You say that you are a DBZ fanboy yet you don't seem to be very knowledgeable about the show or characters. Goku has a teleport its called instant transmission. All he has to do is read a power signature or picture a place and he is there. Broly also had an impenetrable energy shield so with enough power goku was able to push him into the sun with his ki blast. In the first season of DBS it states that radditz goku's older brother moved faster than the speed of light. By the end of the series the characters were all so powerful that the supreme Kai who oversaw the universe as a god was terrified of the powers they threw around.
Nothing in the universe of Pokemon even remotely mentions mewtwo can destroy the universe or cross dimensional barriers or let alone would be considered a god. Besides in the 2nd mewtwo movie doesn't he nearly die when he is captured by Giovanni's robots?
goku will plays around while mewtwo doesnt play games. he wouldnt let him even move, mindraped the moment he saw mewtwo. goku would be dead before he realized the fight was serious
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It's already proven that any mental abuse can be overtaken by Goku. Mewtwo's psychic powers wouldn't keep hold, because the sayajin makeup allows for him to become more powerful as the fight goes on. Just watching the series you see how Goku's power can increase 10x before he changes his form. Kaioken increased his strength and speed, how much per "stack"? I remember him screaming about it hitting in the 50s or so.
Don't even add in the 3rd transformation that is supposed perfect, when it comes to speed and compact mucle.
Speed of thought can only get so fast. Speed of electrical conduction would be the limit on how fast any of these two would be able to respond at any point.
So, maybe random rage induced attacks and movement would be a factor here. Meaning physical strength would win out.
Ape form Goku would win.
In dbz the fighters can move faster than the speed of light (or so they say) doubt mewtwo can stand up to that. Or even super saiyan.
goku doesnt get stronger mid fight unless he transform. sayians get stronger when they heal up after a fight not during
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I think Nekrus statement of you being not very knowledgeable as a fanboy is holding more truth. He can do it under pressure, Cell's Kamehameha was an example of this. "No!!! you can't put that much energy into the kamehameha wave, you'll destroy the planet!" or something like that, he sounded very shocked and worried in his wording too. Then when the wave went off, he directed the wave away before using transmission, if that's not under pressure of being hit in a matter of milliseconds while also worrying for the planet's safety, then I don't know what you consider pressure dude..
If I knew any better, I'd say you weren't really a fanboy and just stating it so it looks like you're giving an unbiased opinion when really, you're coming off very biased lol.
Last edited by NatePsy; 2013-01-25 at 04:48 AM.