Originally Posted by
Fenixdown
lola, this is somewhat off topic obviously, but Stone Guard 25 is basically Halfus heroic. Stone Guard 10 is Halfus normal. Both are easy, but you'd be fooling yourself to think that 10-man is harder considering you're guaranteed to remove one mechanic every week. As far as Will goes, the RoF usage simply proves that Will 25 is harder. They're not nerfing spells for 10-man use, now are they (well, maybe Discipline priest, but that's another story entirely). I will not argue on Gara'jal. It is definitely more challenging on 10-man.
I don't know how you judge difficulty, but I'm guessing it's simply based off of your clear "10-man only" biases and not on actual logic. I won't state that some fights aren't harder on 10-man, they are. Usually the "gear checks" (ala Garalon). However, there are nine encounters that require spacing for a mechanic and situational awareness, minimum. Those nine are definitely more challenging on 25-man. As long as encounters continue to be designed in that manner (which they need to be, to be honest, in order to provide challenge to raiders in today's gaming world, and I am not complaining about that), then 25's will, more often than not, be more difficult overall.
To answer Injun, my story was what just happened yesterday. Of those 15, none are currently raiding. So, yes, you are currently down 15 raiders in the community, and I would not at all be surprised if some of them a. quit raiding or b. quit the game entirely (as stated, even I'm beginning to contemplate that decision, but this is not the time or place for such a discussion).
To answer the poster that I cannot recall the name of in regards to the "guild strategy", I have to wonder if you may be right on your assessment. I have seen other guilds do this in the past, as well. Which, that being the case, then doesn't that simply prove yet again that 25's are more complex logistically and mechanically and prove that they need increased support in some fashion to be deemed a viable option to the masses?
As to people who continue to use the words "force people to do 25's", no. That's not what we want as 25-man raiders. We want people to look at both options and decide what is more important to them. Right now, they don't have to. 10-man gains all of the benefits of 25's with none of the drawbacks. How is that even a choice?