Poll: Will the US/UN use military to disarm North Korea in the next few years?

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    Do you think the war with North Korea is inevitable?

    In about ten years, North Korea will be able to mount a nuclear warhead on a missle that can hit the US even with sanctions put into place. At that point when they actually can hit us, would it be too late for the US or anyone else to overthrow/disarm them? Should it be done now before hand?

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    I'd like to know exactly where you are getting this "ten years" estimation from.

    And no, I don't think they are likely to do it even if they had the technology given they would be obliterated.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    ... If North Korea even has a decade left to live.
    They're starving. North Korea seems to be self-destructing, with that 'independent honour'-code of theirs. They don't have good agriculture, and they've got tonnes of mouths to feed... They've relied, for years, on charity from China, but China is growing more and more reluctant to give that insane nation more food. Besides, the Kim Jung philosophy of independence and such prevents them from asking for help... They're either going to demand help, or starve. Seems like they're demanding at the moment, and the whole world seems to be laughing at them... Maybe they'll take the approach of going out with a bang, but they really cannot keep this up.
    Last edited by Stir; 2013-03-08 at 03:41 AM.

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    Untenable question, and moot. There is no such thing as North Korea, it was replaced in 1953 by Chinese Korea. Everything done in that "country" is actually the will of the Chinese; how on earth can you have an hereditary Communist dictatorship? Such a concept is baffling, to say the least and bespeaks a process outside the actualizing of the will of the communist party of the Korean peninsula.

    We have, oh.. 20,000 spies in Korea, and their go-codes are monitored and scuttelable from secure US-controlled locales. There is zero chance Korea begins hostilities again. The whole reason there is no peace treaty with them, is their gov't is illegitimate, and quite feeble, to boot.
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    No.

    North Korea is all big talk and propaganda. Nothing more. I'm more worried about Iran and I think Iran's at least smart enough to stay out of a war with Israel.
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    The lunatic denial of North Korea of its own crimes is enough to prove that they are do not undertake rational action, and the state of their economy brought about by their ostensibly "communist" policies proves that they're perfectly satisfied with self-destructive behavior for the sake of principle. Personally, I'd rather we just annihilate the whole country than wait for them to make the inevitable first move. It's by no means what I hope we do, but that's better than waiting around wondering of the Worker's Paradise first nuke will hit my city.

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    Of course not, unless there is oil or whatever discovered there. Next republican ape would be all over it in a hearbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chingylol View Post
    In about ten years, North Korea will be able to mount a nuclear warhead on a missle that can hit the US even with sanctions put into place.
    In about ten years, a giant asteroid launched from Saturn by ancient Protheans will land on top of Kim Jong-un.

    At that point when they actually can hit us, would it be too late for the US or anyone else to overthrow/disarm them? Should it be done now before hand?
    "Since we want to invade <insert invasion target>, let's start by inventing lies about WMD so the population will support us!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    In about ten years, a giant asteroid launched from Saturn by ancient Protheans will land on top of Kim Jong-un.


    "Since we want to invade <insert invasion target>, let's start by inventing lies about WMD so the population will support us!!"

    Nukes are WMD's...no need to invent any lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    "Since we want to invade <insert invasion target>, let's start by inventing lies about WMD so the population will support us!!"
    I feel like this line has been used before somewhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angryst View Post
    Nukes are WMD's...no need to invent any lies.
    It's a lie about the delivery platform of the WMD. Hence, lies about WMDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    I feel like this line has been used before somewhere.
    I dunno... I can't quite place my finger on it...

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    I don't think you could really call it a "war." I think North Korea is going to cross the line too far very soon and face some consequences though. It's hard for me to think of it as a war when the opposing side is so weak, clumsy, and self destructive.

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    Wont be a war more like a one sided fist fight with alot of clean up and rebuilding.

    Super powers U.S/U.K/Russia/China excel at fights where its an actual fight. Thats what the U.S's military is built around fights against a countryNot a fight against small pockets of hidden in caves/sand traps "hence why afgan has gone on for so long" they are just everywhere so its slow and steady. But when its a Countries government a 100% established enemy military force in a country that's where super power countries excel at destruction.

    Worded some of this wrong so let me try again.

    When it comes to army V army it isnt a war its a massacre since the Super powers that would be in that war U.K/U.S would just be like yeah fuck you and take out their military infrastructure pretty quickly and it would be over with an acceptable amount of civilian death. Since those countries/powers army are made for large scale battles.

    To add more point to how one sided it would be the u.s is capable of now destroying all of S.K's military from a single air craft carrier. Hell a single aircraft carrier could probably destroy a country of same power as the u.s "if their defenses suck"
    Last edited by Raptor With a Saber; 2013-03-08 at 03:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    I feel like this line has been used before somewhere.
    I feel like Saddam wasn't openly threatening the US nor had he been conducting nuclear tests that were confirmed by multiple sources.

    This isn't really the same at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergtau View Post
    I feel like Saddam wasn't openly threatening the US nor had he been conducting nuclear tests that were confirmed by multiple sources.

    This isn't really the same at all.
    True. Nobody was laughing at Saddam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    In about ten years, a giant asteroid launched from Saturn by ancient Protheans will land on top of Kim Jong-un.


    "Since we want to invade <insert invasion target>, let's start by inventing lies about WMD so the population will support us!!"
    I love people who dont do research, several WMDs were found in Iraq, on top of the chemical shit they were using, i had several friends hit by chlorine (and not that pool shit either) bombs. Besides, we didnt go to war over WMD's, he wouldnt let us inspect for them, which was a treaty violation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergtau View Post
    I feel like Saddam wasn't openly threatening the US nor had he been conducting nuclear tests that were confirmed by multiple sources.

    This isn't really the same at all.
    "In 10 years they can hit the U.S." is about the same, just a more drastic level.

    I'm not opposed to invading North Korea and reunifying the Korean peninsula by force per se (but I wouldn't advocate it on account of, you know, they might use the nukes). But whipping on support for military action by saying "well either risk it now or risk Los Angeles in 10 years" is a rather blatant replay.

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    North Korea reminds me of a kid who will do anything for attention but I don't think they will start anything. They seem to do it more for their population than for the world. I say just leave them be and hopefully they will come around. Especially since Rodman is on the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chingylol View Post
    In about ten years, North Korea will be able to mount a nuclear warhead on a missle that can hit the US even with sanctions put into place. At that point when they actually can hit us, would it be too late for the US or anyone else to overthrow/disarm them? Should it be done now before hand?
    It's never too late for the western imperialists to overthrow any dictatorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eodusaf View Post
    I love people who dont do research, several WMDs were found in Iraq, on top of the chemical shit they were using, i had several friends hit by chlorine (and not that pool shit either) bombs.
    Well if you're going to call a chlorine bomb "WMD" then okay.

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