[Fury] Removal of Colossus smash

[Trubo]

Can anyone speak and clearify how it feels without CS right now ? much appreciated.

Essentially the same rotation with CS (before people get up in arms, maximizing your CS' duration was not optimal play). However, due to the BT damage nerf, UqT is not necessarily the best talent anymore.

[catablitz]

Essentially the same rotation with CS (before people get up in arms, maximizing your CS' duration was not optimal play). However, due to the BT damage nerf, UqT is not necessarily the best talent anymore.

Maths is maths and sims are sims. Still, I find it hard to believe that the rage gen, the more frequent RB and WS and enrage uptime and whatever else I am forgetting now will not push this talent higher. Fury scale is amazing and as good as a combat rogue.

[MonsieuRoberts]

Why was it removed?

Because the design team is obsessed with sentences that describe what the specs were intended to feel like in Vanilla and are willing to mutate any type of currently existing playstyle to achieve that goal.

I miss Ghostcrawler. He seemed to keep the stupidity on a short leash. Without him, we get...this. ;_;

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I'm just unsure if the optimal rotation is



or



Hopefully Collision will clarify that to us.

You seem to have a good one in your profile pic:



I would stick with that. Should work well until the next expansion.

[Dawnrage]

I miss Ghostcrawler. He seemed to keep the stupidity on a short leash. Without him, we get...this. ;_;

I think there was a quote from GC somewhere about how he enjoyed working on LoL since he didn't have to worry about whether someone's grandmother could pick up the game or not. At the time I thought it was exaggeration on his part.

Guess not.

[Khorm]

I miss Ghostcrawler. He seemed to keep the stupidity on a short leash. Without him, we get...this. ;_;

The stupidity is yours. GC shouldn't of been blamed solely for anything and shouldn't be praised solely for anything.

[Trubo]

Maths is maths and sims are sims. Still, I find it hard to believe that the rage gen, the more frequent RB and WS and enrage uptime and whatever else I am forgetting now will not push this talent higher. Fury scale is amazing and as good as a combat rogue.

Before the SD/Execute buff in this current patch, Collision reported that all options were similar to each other. It should be self-evident that an increase in Execute damage while all else remains the same means that SD becomes stronger.

Don't forget, SD proc rate buff is huge.

[MonsieuRoberts]

The stupidity is yours. GC shouldn't of been blamed solely for anything and shouldn't be praised solely for anything.

Look at the tumultuous times of Warrior DPS with him gone. Surely changes this radical and senseless, focusing on a descriptor sentence instead of the actual gameplay that's already there, wouldn't have happened to this degree with him still there, right?

[Juliansfist]

Wow just played fury on PTR and it felt...mind-numbing. Really didn't feel like any pro-active game play elements at all and I get what people mean by 3 button wonder. It actually feels rather similar to a combat rogue only swapping combo points for procs.

[Artorius]

It actually feels rather similar to a combat rogue only swapping combo points for procs.

Err, no, sorry.

[nowish]

Am I the only one who like the new fury playstyle without CS and with SD (hate UQT with all my heart tho) ?

[Smittzz]

Am I the only one who like the new fury playstyle without CS and with SD (hate UQT with all my heart tho) ?

Everytime I log into beta there is at least 1 person in trade talking about how amazing new Fury is. I throw up every time.

[Ferg]

I haven't even really touched Fury on my beta warrior. Seems pointless, when Arms is so strong and Glad is so fun. I only have two specs, and those fill 'em up right now.

[Secondwind]

Am I the only one who like the new fury playstyle without CS and with SD (hate UQT with all my heart tho) ?

I actually just played a few levels as Fury with SD, and honestly, I'm pretty okay with it. Glad is still preferred, but Fury, assuming no radical changes in the next week to key abilities (specifically I like that WW is efficient enough to use as a filler when there aren't a bunch of procs/high rage, and don't want to see it nerfed. I also really like the current frequency/damage of Sudden Death and don't want to see it get nerfed overmuch), I can see it being a stopgap that I would be okay with playing during the wait for WoD to drop, and probably while leveling as well.

[Tekkommo]

Is Furious Strikes or Unquenchable Thirst better?

It just doesn't feel right spamming Bloodthirst...

Bring back Heroic Strike on next weapon swing and I would be very happy.

[Trubo]

Is Furious Strikes or Unquenchable Thirst better?

It just doesn't feel right spamming Bloodthirst...

Bring back Heroic Strike on next weapon swing and I would be very happy.

Sudden Death

[Drknife]

The removal of colossus smash is why I'm resubbing. I liked fury in wrath/cata when it felt like your fingers were gonna fall off after a raid boss kill.
I quit in MoP when fury became the do stuff every 20 seconds spec. FURY should be furious finger pushing all the time, not bleh.

Good change.

[Satori]

Your post is so clueless it's evident you're saying that just for the lulz. But just to clarify, the new "furious" "finger pushing" spec requires less apm than the current version in MoP and Gladiator with Unyielding Strikes has unhealthy levels of spamming if what you're looking for are finger cramps.

[Deleted]

combat rogue t15 was unhealthy

warrior is fine.

[catablitz]

Your post is so clueless it's evident you're saying that just for the lulz. But just to clarify, the new "furious" "finger pushing" spec requires less apm than the current version in MoP and Gladiator with Unyielding Strikes has unhealthy levels of spamming if what you're looking for are finger cramps.

There are and there have been many specs in the game that are gcd locked. Meaning pressing a button every 1,5 sec at least. Old warrior could spam HS when rage was enough due to fight mechanics, buffs and of course gear. Even in Wrath with Shadowmourne and with flurry up you were presssing HS at average every 1,7 - 2,0 secs at best.
If you were pressing HS ten times per second, you were doing it wrong. It was mostly psychological driven and it did feel warriorish to feel IRL fatigued after a boss fight. One of the reasons that old warrior players were fanatized with their toon.

[Ferg]

The removal of colossus smash is why I'm resubbing. I liked fury in wrath/cata when it felt like your fingers were gonna fall off after a raid boss kill.
I quit in MoP when fury became the do stuff every 20 seconds spec. FURY should be furious finger pushing all the time, not bleh.

Good change.

You obviously weren't playing your Warrior correctly. MoP Fury had a much higher APM than Cataclysm, and even Wrath.

That aside, if that's what you miss, is the feeling of early-onset Carpal Tunnel Syndrome (to each his own, I suppose), you could play Gladiator in WoD, because it's literally the same thing.