Shadow isn't a healing spec

[Deleted]

How many of you are aware that to the priest class shadow isn't a healing spec?

If we were aiming to be healers on battlegrounds, why do you think we choose to spec shadow?
Why do you go #%/(&#%" when a shadow priest doesn't heal you? Honestly, the only thing we drop shadow form for (yes, we cannot heal in shadow form, did you know this?) is for extremely important uses, for example if there's a flag carrier in WSG that needs some help.


A question is, why don't you learn about the different classes before you qq about they not doing something that well, they aren't really suppose to be doing?

I'm thinking about that song on youtube "The world of warcraft that you play". Old song but might be right on this one:
"Priest - you think you're a shadow priest, but you will be forced to be a healbot in your raid. You should be prepared to jump off a cliff when suddenly everything is your fault"

Comments?

[Deleted]

It's quite amusing with conversations like this (chars being lvl70+):
Rogue: Heal.
Priest: I'm shadow
Rogue: So?
Priest: Shadow isn't a healing spec

[jaddboy]

You don't see this too often anymore, or at least in my experience. More people understand about hybrids and what they do.

But back in the old days it was very bad.

[onfire9123]

my conversations usually go like this

rogue: heal
me: eat

[Mutin]

I just love you use rogue for your examples
But why do you even step into pvp as shadow? It is so weak atm. I feel kinda sorry for you

[TwistedPower]

It was realy only like that in the old days where basically if you were a pally/shamen/druid/priest, you healed becuase every set (except for AQ40 stuff) was geared for those classes and healing. There was no offset, anybody now who says that is just angry at themselfs for beeing so horrible as to need a shadow priests heals.

[Deleted]

my conversations usually go like this

rogue: heal
me: eat

Haha, that's perfect

[Deleted]

I just love you use rogue for your examples
But why do you even step into pvp as shadow? It is so weak atm. I feel kinda sorry for you

Hehe well, Im leveling my priest and leveling as shadow is best way to do it. However, sometimes I take a break from questing doing some bgs instead and don't want to respec. So, I'm not only shadow in pvp, I'm also having a pve shadow spec =) But I can do some fair amount of killing dks anyway =) I probably will pvp as disc on 80, but can be stuck with shadow. Depends if our druid that will be in the team is a more suitable healer than a disc priest, or if owl is better than shadow =) Perhaps new patch will tell?

[Deleted]

It was realy only like that in the old days where basically if you were a pally/shamen/druid/priest, you healed becuase every set (except for AQ40 stuff) was geared for those classes and healing. There was no offset, anybody now who says that is just angry at themselfs for beeing so horrible as to need a shadow priests heals.

Hehe yes, I've noticed they are horrible. I never thought they would blame the shadow priest for it though, especially when they are playing a class that can take most other classes down =)

[TheJ3ster]

So wait. Your saying that is say for example you show up to Mine in AB and a DK and rogue are fighting(rogue on your side) You would rather try to kill the DK before he killed the rogue instead of healing the rogue then doting up the DK therefor insuring his survival?

Just a heads up 2v1 > 1v1. What if after you've killed the DK but the rogue died, a rogue of theirs jumps and owns you? Sure would be nice if you had help......

You ignorant Hybrids are the reason most DPS specs from these classes are frowned upon.

"I can has PEepZ!!" You make me sick. Flag carriers is a pretty crap excuse.

[Deleted]

So wait. Your saying that is say for example you show up to Mine in AB and a DK and rogue are fighting(rogue on your side) You would rather try to kill the DK before he killed the rogue instead of healing the rogue then doting up the DK therefor insuring his survival?

Just a heads up 2v1 > 1v1. What if after you've killed the DK but the rogue died, a rogue of theirs jumps and owns you? Sure would be nice if you had help......

You ignorant Hybrids are the reason most DPS specs from these classes are frowned upon.

"I can has PEepZ!!" You make me sick. Flag carriers is a pretty crap excuse.

Well, if I wanted to play that healing part on bgs, wouldn't I choose another spec? I can kill dks, even some levels above me and I'm not a very good player, if a rogue can't he sure could use some practise, don't you think? If some rogue kill me, well... I want to practise and rogues can be killable and I don't mind a challange. If I die? Well, in bgs that's not the end of the world. In arena? Well, that's quite a different thing, no?

[FreakEyy]

so you mean, 'cuz you are a spriest your not gonna heal someone in arena or bg when someone is dying?

I play feral and I can drop form and heal my mate up some but I'm not gonna stay out of form keep on healing, just so he can survive for atleast a few more seconds so he can run away healhimself up or bandage/eat or something else. you gotta heal some even if you are shadowspecc

[mennoknight]

I just love you use rogue for your examples
But why do you even step into pvp as shadow? It is so weak atm. I feel kinda sorry for you

Shadow is VERY weak in arena. in BG's and WG it's not all that bad.

My favorite thing is WG because we have the Multiboxer Prepared on my server. This is the guy who has 41 accounts. he has 13 that he's run almost to 80 now and decided he wanted to do WG. I just wait in a tower and mindsear and bam... 13 kills.

[cynical]

So wait. Your saying that is say for example you show up to Mine in AB and a DK and rogue are fighting(rogue on your side) You would rather try to kill the DK before he killed the rogue instead of healing the rogue then doting up the DK therefor insuring his survival?

Just a heads up 2v1 > 1v1. What if after you've killed the DK but the rogue died, a rogue of theirs jumps and owns you? Sure would be nice if you had help......

You ignorant Hybrids are the reason most DPS specs from these classes are frowned upon.

"I can has PEepZ!!" You make me sick. Flag carriers is a pretty crap excuse.

I heal people when I feel like it, even when I'm spec'd for healing. You have to remember that bgs are not arena and I may or may not care about your survival. Maybe 2v1 would be more fun than healing a terrible dps and suffering a damage loss while out of shadowform?

[zaalnek]

Honestly, the only thing we drop shadow form for (yes, we cannot heal in shadow form, did you know this?) is for extremely important uses, for example if there's a flag carrier in WSG that needs some help.

The problem goes both ways, I've been with shadow priests who do refuse to drop some heals on the flag carrier, or heal in the back on 4 horsemen when we only have 2 healers and nothing else close to a 3rd. At least you recognize that there are circumstances to leave shadowform, because there are too many that dont who make hybrids that Can and will heal or tank at the right time stereotyped as r tards (and rightfully so in most cases).

[Old Coot]

So wait. Your saying that is say for example you show up to Mine in AB and a DK and rogue are fighting(rogue on your side) You would rather try to kill the DK before he killed the rogue instead of healing the rogue then doting up the DK therefor insuring his survival?

It depends.

If we held the mine and the rogue was defending the flag by himself, I would heal him without hesitation.

But if the other faction owned the mine and the rogue ran off to play rambo by himself instead of waiting for me (or anyone else) to go with so we could attack together...I'd probably just DPS. If the the rogue died, no great loss, he wasnt worth saving anyways.

[Deleted]

so you mean, 'cuz you are a spriest your not gonna heal someone in arena or bg when someone is dying?

I play feral and I can drop form and heal my mate up some but I'm not gonna stay out of form keep on healing, just so he can survive for atleast a few more seconds so he can run away healhimself up or bandage/eat or something else. you gotta heal some even if you are shadowspecc

Well, like I wrote in another post: To die in battlegrounds is not the end of the world, in arena it's a different thing. So you are saying you drop form for every single dude in battlegrounds who are in trouble to heal him?

[Dubious]

as a shadow priest u atleast got a mana pool

when ppl ask me for heals i tell em to fuck off (im prot or retri)
when ur OOC u can sit down and eat

and pvping in shadowform?
so ur switching form all the time to heal urself?

[Deleted]

as a shadow priest u atleast got a mana pool

when ppl ask me for heals i tell em to fuck off (im prot or retri)
when ur OOC u can sit down and eat

and pvping in shadowform?
so ur switching form all the time to heal urself?

I usually get enough life from dots (dp, we) on battlegrounds. If I do need some fast instant heal I have my healing potions. I don't need healing potions while leveling so I can use the ones I get in bgs instead. The problem in bgs is usually being out of mana so I'm not sure about the mana pool. Maybe my gear later on will help out, cause now I only wear quest items... but I'm not 80 yet =)

[Deleted]

Shadow isn't really much of a spec at all if we're honest.

Its like the holy priests levelling tree, but a lot of people thought the shadowform was cool and decided to stay shadow. So they gave it utility which other classes didn't have. Then it became the priests main spec and outshone holy. So then they decided to give it less utility and more damage. And now its not as good as mage/lock or the other casters. And not great in PVP. You'd get far more HKs if you specced disc and healed instead of trying to dps.

Shadow is a mess really. Should replace it with a viable holy dps tree for levelling or a 3rd healing tree. Priest was so obviously never intended as a main dps class.

Well, a holy dps tree for leveling won't be necessary when we're able to use dual specs. Three healing trees would not be a choice either cause of the leveling time it would take for priests compared to other classes.
I read a blue about making holy priests better pvp and I've asked and noone seems to know what changes needs to be done to holy pvp.
However, HKs in bgs.... I dont know, I seem to be among players in the top when it comes to HK... both as disc and shadow.
Shadow might be messy, but there are things that can be done about it and changes as they are said now in next patch seem to be pretty sweet for bgs.