Where was the Wrath?

[ScorchHellfire]

I recall reading a blue post stating along the lines of 'You will feel like you left a part of yourself up in Northrend". So I figured some big loss would happen at ICC. So ICC is over and we all know what happened. I for one don't really feel like anything so major was lost that I feel like 'a part of me is left in northrend'. Mostly I'm just feeling like we went to Northrend and smashed every baddy in sight without any real tough issues. Hell we even were fighting eachother (Alliance vs. Horde) while crushing the big bad lich king and still came out ontop.

Maybe for a few people who really really thought Bolvar was just the best ever and held him as a fav character then maybe they might feel that slightly, even though he didnt even really die in the end...

Question is, do you think 'You will feel like you left a part of yourself up in Northrend'? If ya do, how come?

I think they meant more in lore terms than literally having the fight against the Lich King be that trying as far as game mechanics... To our characters though its been a long road of many trials and the Scourge on all sides with the Lich King trying to seduce you to join him the whole way through and he finally kills you anyway and the only reason we are able to finish him off is because Tirion breaks Frostmourne with the Ashbringer causing all the spirits trapped with in to lash out and hold him at bay while we deliver the final blows... You gotta think of it in a deeper more story driven way instead of just referencing the venear of game mechanics...

[Zizzagee]

it was the wrath of teh epix. people wanted "MOAR EPIX" so they could think they are good at the game so blizz made 5 mediocre raids and 2 okish ones so the scrubs (not casuals) could "haz epix"

[AnotherPaladin]

I don't really feel an emotional connection to Northrend that much. A lot of it was reused material and gear from bc/vanilla. I loved the wrath gate though, such an epic quest line and an amazing cinematic.

[Skuzzy]

Cata needs more of them epic cinematics

[diseous]

Every time I make a new character, I salute the General Jonathan on my way into Stormwind. I have been, ever since I found out that he salutes back. The days of walking up the hall on my way to the pvp npc's I would pass Bolvar and the kings son back in BC. That's how it was, and it will never be that way again. The man that protected Stormwind was destroyed at the wrath gate, and after sacrificing himself to be the protector of Stormwind, has now decided to be the protector of all wowkind.

I feel that a lot of "what was" is going to be left in Northerend, and the coming of Cataclysm will make that even more of a feeling. While we are up in the cold beating the scourge, there is something brewing back home. The question is, "Are you prepared?"

[Borakh]

I for one thought Northrend was rather epic from the lore perspective. I'm sure the quote was referring mostly to the Wrathgate event, and probably they had intended to do more along those lines before they came up with a fancy jousting tournament instead. But Bolvar and Saurfang jr. made their return in ICC allright. I play Horde, but the transcript of the Alliance event after DBS was just awesome.

And man, the quest lines! When I found the corpses of the Taunka refugees who had been slain before they could escape Borean Tundra? When Drakkuru betrayed me in Drak'Tharon? When I helplessly watched the Drakkari kill mighty Akali? When I travelled all the world and beyond to save that infected Argent Crusader up in Icecrown, but failed, though the Naaru came to save his soul? (And I so knew when I returned from Wyrmrest Temple that there was only one place left Tirion could send me!) When I learned that all I had done had been part of Loken's scheme, and the hope I had brought to Thorim had just led him to his demise?

I don't know about you, but I thought that was some epic tragedy. Have you been reading the quest texts?

[Joffy]

I didn’t feel the wrath at all in Northrend, not while I was levelling or in dungeons or the raids. I’m not saying I hated the expansion because I didn’t, the lore stories alone were what made it for me. But from the first raid in Naxx I wasn’t thrilled at all.

Naxx was a straight rip off of the original but more of a walk over, they didn’t even try to update models or fight mechanics. Ulduar I enjoyed, the place looked fantastic and it was a breath of fresh air from the dull mess that was Naxx. Totc … outright crapfest, I hated that place the first time I stepped in there, nothing but utter slacking from Blizzard imo. ICC again was pretty cool and I’m enjoying it but I think Totc killed off a bit of my soul so I’m not enjoying it as much as I should. Plus add to that we’re now doing 10 man, 25 mans and soon it will be 10+25 man hc version. Basically same shit different raid ID, THIS has killed a lot of my enjoyment in WoW. Running multiple version of the same raid over and over and over just for badges.

I’d have to say overall I’ve been very VERY disappointed with the raids in WotlK, not because of them being easy but because there wasn’t enough of them and most of it just seemed lazy and uninspiring. After raiding all the way through TBC and getting Kara, Gruul, , Mag, SSC, TK, MH, BT, ZA and then SW I think I was spoilt for choice and originality. Overall WotlK only get 5/10 for effort and content.

[Sanguissa]

Wrath was everywhere. As few people here stated, it doesnt really matter that only few of important npc died. Every scourge soldier was once living beeing. Nearly every scourge general or high-ranked member was once someone who fought against the scourge and get killed, resurected and corrupted. People murdering their familys and close friends as death knights, later ripping their own eyes because they cannot held all the guilt. Or even worse, people eating their family members as mindless ghouls, while lich king tortures their soul in frostmourne for eternity.

Wrathgate event and its continuing, which resulted in war between alliance and horde right in middle of crusade against the lich king, which led to more massacres, which only gave more power to lich king. Tirions carnival, which was horror itself

Point is that when you play game, you mostly focus on doing your job in raid right, or getting XP and new greens. But just try to look on it from your characters view. If wotlk was movie, it would be depresing horror movie which would force you to commit suicide on the end. Because, its basicly this: Insanity of former wise dragon, and his hunger for deaths of every mage. Plans of black dragonflught to create new ultimate twilight dragonflight, for eliminating all non-black dragon beeings. Giant floating nexropolis of horror, where you fight monsters sewed from mother and son, dark knights of death and despair, most feared lich who basicly made kingdom of lordaeon kingdom of terror. Than you Yogg, no need to explain the presure on ones mind here.

With skiping some parts of wotlk , you have Icecrown Citadel only. Now imagine after you went throught all of this, would you dare to step foot into lair of such powerfull monster which you basicly dont stand a chance against? Terenas said it right in 3.3 trailer..

[Janke]

well ppl that didnt even kill LK alrdy started crying how it easy encounter
but for Op m8 u got 7 raids in wotlk and 9 in tbc
plus tbc would had 7 if blizz didnt screwed up as they said...
also raids arent easy..they are maybe on normal but did u try some hcs? did u try to get 2 algalon during 3.1? or kill anub on 25 hc?
those are all epic fights and i remember ensidia ppl stated that mimiron hard mode was here and there near the KJ (during 3.1 period!!)
sure some of that are easy now but u got icc normal and hc which isnt that easy
a lot of guilds will need more like 1 month 2 get into hc and the others that get in hcs earlier wont down that hc for long time
also i would say this was most epic xpack in term of lore
hope they wont just trow Arthas aside cause he is most epic boss in all mmorpg world
his story,his everything make him worth killing and play this game and not some chinese,korean or other stupid rpgs that just came from nowhere....

[Ikkatsu]

Yogg-Saron was the most epic encounter yet.

Lich King fight looks* boring.

*I say this because i havn't actually taken part in killing him.

[Offhand]

I missed the Wrath too. All WotLK was Arthas basically talking to his middle-managers informing them to get shit done, leaving you to fight the managers.

[Ruks]

First I would like to make clear that I was talking from a lore perspective, not at all fight mechanics.

Secondly there have been alot of good responses I think, and after reading some of them I suppose I overlooked a good deal of the 'wrath' that has been around. Lots of generic npc's died...ALOT, and thats sure to wear on a persons soul. Even though I still do feel like generic npc's sort of die all the time and some more important figures being nocked out of the picture would have had a more devistating effect as far as thinking back to wotlk and going 'wow lich king really packed a punch'. Guess I will just accept that alot of people died and for that reason it was a tough go. Thanks for responses everyone