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    anyone think warlocks are insanely op?

    Is it really necessary for warlocks to have 550k+ hp plus do insane dmg, on top of having awesome control/cc abilities and also have awesome defensive cds? I ran into a warlock a few mins ago with 550k hp and he was in crafted blues and a few malevolent pieces...then when he pops his cds he jumps up to 730khp and is absorbing everything i can throw at him...then healing himself to full, then once that wears off im feared and stunned until im dead...

    you can say its a l2p issue if u like, but it really does seem OP...

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    currently running arenas with a lock. i couldn't ever beat one, so i joined forces with one.

    locks have always been about high hp and ridiculous fear spam. that's what they're good at. well played locks have always ruined my day.
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    i wouldn't say their op. they just have alot of defensive cds you have to burn thru with a small window to kill them in. plenty of classes counter them easily. i know on my dk and rogue they're one of the easiest classes to beat. just have to learn how to counter their abilities and when you can go offensive vs defensive.

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    Well bub I really don't see how it's anything but a l2p issue. Warlocks are far from op. If he had 550k hp that means he was using sacrifice + soul link which means he has no sac pact or dark bargain, and if his hp jumped to 700k+ that also means he sacrificed a voidwalker (lol) so basically it sounds like this warlock is actually a really terrible player and if you lost to him it's your own fault or your teammates.

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    I agree, why do they need to have 550+ hp, casting while moving and what seems like endless heals and absorbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taros View Post
    Well bub I really don't see how it's anything but a l2p issue. Warlocks are far from op. If he had 550k hp that means he was using sacrifice + soul link which means he has no sac pact or dark bargain, and if his hp jumped to 700k+ that also means he sacrificed a voidwalker (lol) so basically it sounds like this warlock is actually a really terrible player and if you lost to him it's your own fault or your teammates.
    I agree with Taros. Nobody with blues and a couple of malevolent gear can hit 550k hp without having Soul Link and a Sacrificed pet.

    If you take soul link+sac, it's pretty terrible in PvP, and guess what? They have no absorbs if they take soul link apart from a weak twilight ward.

    I seriously doubt he was OP, you were just outplayed by a bad warlock the way you tell the story.

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    Don't hit him while he has those cds up, cc him and don't let him do any damage on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutnbrg View Post
    Is it really necessary for warlocks to have 550k+ hp plus do insane dmg, on top of having awesome control/cc abilities and also have awesome defensive cds? I ran into a warlock a few mins ago with 550k hp and he was in crafted blues and a few malevolent pieces...then when he pops his cds he jumps up to 730khp and is absorbing everything i can throw at him...then healing himself to full, then once that wears off im feared and stunned until im dead...

    you can say its a l2p issue if u like, but it really does seem OP...
    play a lockkiller class any dk and warri deals realy quickly with them. Not sure about rogues after the nerfs, but he was always a lock killer, too - well outside of the demon spec.

    I heard from a lock battle faitigue does affect locks absorb schields but pvp power won't? is this true in 5.3?
    Last edited by Tyrannica; 2013-05-28 at 12:46 PM.

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    They own me every time. In my situation, it's my fault since I don't know what abilities they use. Noob vs Warlocks ;D

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    No. They are not insanely op in a 3v3 enviroment. If you mean 1v1 vs a bad player? Then still no. Its just a l2p-issue i would say.

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    l2p issue. You guys don't even know what he loses to have this much hp...

    The only OP thing I see is Ember Tap (1 ember 20%+ heal no cooldown) for destruction locks.

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    Locks jumping from 550k to 750k hp are bad and they have a horrible talent build, its a l2p issue.

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    Hmm never noticed. As windwalker monk I kick thir ass, most casters tbh barely get to even damage me when it comes to 1v1.

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    In PVP warlocks are not OP at all atm. Not at all. They are even slightly Underpowered IMO, but probably could be described as "balanced". Pve on the other hand they are very strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannica View Post
    play a lockkiller class any dk and warri deals realy quickly with them. Not sure about rogues after the nerfs, but he was always a lock killer, too - well outside of the demon spec.

    I heard from a lock battle faitigue does affect locks absorb schields but pvp power won't? is this true in 5.3?
    fatigue for sure affects stuff like siphon life glyph + drain life. doesnt feel like it's being boosted by pvpp.

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    'I lost to a lock so I go QQ on the forum'

    As a warlock I can only assume he's used sacrifice pet (voidlord) which granted him an additional 30% HP for 30 seconds and used the healthshield thingy (cant remember its name)

    Perhaps you shouldn't have blown all your cooldowns into his shield and just danced around for a little while, then when it came to him using CC, trinket, pop defensives and punch him in the dick. It is completely 100% a 'L2P' moment, there is nothing OP about locks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakez View Post
    l2p issue. You guys don't even know what he loses to have this much hp...

    The only OP thing I see is Ember Tap (1 ember 20%+ heal no cooldown) for destruction locks.
    Incorrect, it's 30% over about 15 seconds. So make sure your dps doesnt suck and you can easily DPS > HoT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Spock View Post
    'I lost to a lock so I go QQ on the forum'

    As a warlock I can only assume he's used sacrifice pet (voidlord) which granted him an additional 30% HP for 30 seconds and used the healthshield thingy (cant remember its name)

    Perhaps you shouldn't have blown all your cooldowns into his shield and just danced around for a little while, then when it came to him using CC, trinket, pop defensives and punch him in the dick. It is completely 100% a 'L2P' moment, there is nothing OP about locks.

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    Incorrect, it's 30% over about 15 seconds. So make sure your dps doesnt suck and you can easily DPS > HoT
    1 - it's called sacrificial pact i think..we dont get sacrifice from void lord anymore so that has to be what you mean.

    2 - i think it's 20% instant [non-hot] unless you glyph an then it's 20%+%5 and all over time.

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    Locks have always been strong against casters but melee still have an easier time against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulbalance View Post
    1 - it's called sacrificial pact i think..we dont get sacrifice from void lord anymore so that has to be what you mean.

    2 - i think it's 20% instant [non-hot] unless you glyph an then it's 20%+%5 and all over time.
    Yeah yeah of course, you sacrifice the voidlord and you get the ability, sacrifice a different minion and you get a different ability That one.

    and ohhh, you are indeed correct I even have it glyphed too ha

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    If you think warlocks are op you haven't fought a PHDk.. Or any cleave for that matter. Warlocks get cleaved down hard as fuck. 3v3 is where it matters. You cannot deem something OP from a 1v1 duel -.-

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