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    Question Should animals be given special rights?

    No I don't mean protection rights but rights as in given special privileges like in this video where the geese nesting area is restricted for anyone to enter.

    Last edited by Ave07; 2014-12-25 at 10:21 PM.

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    What kind of special rights are you referring to?
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    Canadian Geese DO have special rights, it's illegal to hunt them everywhere in Canada unless you're a native.
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    Yes, special rights to be hunted for their delicious succulent meat. I don't care what Animal you are, I'm an Apex Predator, and I will eat you.

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    Like this orangutan? http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and...tive-orangutan

    Geese are assholes though, and a group of them is even worse than a group of hooligans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    You're going to have to elaborate a bit more on what you're referring to.
    Okay for example in the video I posted, you can see that the area the geese are nesting are off limits due to them being aggressive to humans who walk by.

    Why not just relocate the geese instead of blocking off the area for people to pass by?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ave07 View Post
    Why not just relocate the geese instead of blocking off the area for people to pass by?
    ...Because the Geese came first on that specific space, and since they'r very territorialist, you can't "realocate" those geeses without causing some advanced damage on the way they live.

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    There are laws dealing with animal cruelty. So yeah, they do have certain rights and justifiably so. That said, they can also be pests and in some cases controlling them and even killing them can be justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ave07 View Post
    Okay for example in the video I posted, you can see that the area the geese are nesting are off limits due to them being aggressive to humans who walk by.

    Why not just relocate the geese instead of blocking off the area for people to pass by?
    If legally for conservation reasons the animals can not be moved (the birds would not continue to look after the eggs if moved to a different location) then yes, they deserve special rights. I don't know enough about that species of geese and that area, but we have animal laws for a reason.

    In some situations it would be better to relocate an animal that is having problems with the urban population but this is obviously not one of them, since the eggs would essentially be destroyed by such a move. Geese should certainly not be punished conservation-wise just because they are a territorial animal and are slightly inconveniencing people. They are not actually harming people - now if this was an alligator we were talking about of course it would be removed because that would actually endanger lives.

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    That really depends on an animal by animal basis. Some animals are so small we can't even see them, such have no real opportunity to give them any rights at all.

    Some are nearing extinction, and those need special protection unless they've an invasive species that has done more harm than good.

    Whether that particular goose has rights, I don't know. If geese are attacking people arbitarily in a park, whack the mofo's down. It's just geese; they're not rare at all and if nothing else we can cook them for dinner and put them to good use. :P

    One right I think all animals should have, however, is the right not to be tortured, insufar as it is possible for us to ensure that. Animal abuse is not okay no matter what in my opinion. This even includes animals for slaughter, which is why I'm against traditional Halal slaughtering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ave07 View Post
    Okay for example in the video I posted, you can see that the area the geese are nesting are off limits due to them being aggressive to humans who walk by.

    Why not just relocate the geese instead of blocking off the area for people to pass by?
    Simple, they are animals. They will return if they are relocated. Its blocked off for human protection.

    As to the topic. Rights, No. Protection, Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    We should convert to a single global monarchy and each month we can put a different animal on the throne. That particular organism will become the supreme ruler and all other members of the species will become the ruling class. At the end of the month, we'll do a lottery to determine our next glorious leader and begin anew.

    I fear the month dung beetles come into power.
    I would very much like to see that. Just to see the rage of all the hypocritical animal lovers when 99% of the time some "ugly" insects rule the world.

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    Animals have the right to taste good, that is all.

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    I'm sure it's not a serious question, but if it is...
    There's billions of animals killed for food annually and you want to give them rights? Like what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ave07 View Post
    Especially when they are bullies like geese?

    ye but the police officers and judges for that can only be animals so there is no discrimination. Would be fun to see a wolf being the judge.

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    Hahaha Special rights?


    Every Animal, which ones?


    I am going to go with NO! Not unless there is a specific reason to observe that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b2121945 View Post
    I'm sure it's not a serious question, but if it is...
    There's billions of animals killed for food annually and you want to give them rights? Like what?
    Right this way.

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    Animals should probably have rights, but it doesn't need to be a full set of human rights and should depend on the species. Primates, especially great apes, should probably be given a set of protectionary rights based on being similar to humans. Others would just have a right to be killed as humanely as possible. I'm on my phone, so I'm keeping it short.
    Yeeeah but they have that already. Some of them are even protected and can't be killed.

    You can't give them more rights. If you of course don't want them to have freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

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    I tell you what, I do hate are these "COMPANION ANIMALS" being sold as service pets. I am more than a little annoyed that this bullshit distinction has been allowed.

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