Legion Beta - Spell Changes, Talent Calculator, Artifact Weapons, Models, and More!

[chaud]

Update (5:30 AM EST): Added PvP Talent information.

Legion Beta - Build 20740
A big thanks to our entire team and the community members that have helped out so far! Be sure to check out the original post.

Blizzard Gear Store Addition - Cute But Deadly Vinyls
Blizzard added some new Vinyls to the Blizzard Gear store recently and we have a full set to look at!

[Feali]

Why is this not on the front page? I almost missed it.

[Kaldriss]

it is on the front page also thank you for departmentalizing it all!

[Deleted]

Dat White Arthas, who is he?

[Usagi Senshi]

Ugh, random boxes. Pass. I just wanted Sylvannas, Arthas, and a green Murky. :/

[Deleted]

this talent calculator is for reals? They just moved stuff from spellbook to talent tree?! WTF blz.

[Salech]

Blizzard headquarter: Guys, people still can't figure out this extremely easy thing with talents and such, my idea would to simplify it even more so now you don't even need to change weapons, all classes are basically the same all of them have a resource, now how can we dumb this game down to Diablo 3.

[Tenjen]

this talent calculator is for reals? They just moved stuff from spellbook to talent tree?! WTF blz.

Jeez pay attention. You're seeing the trees when you should be watching the forest

[TheWindWalker]

this talent calculator is for reals? They just moved stuff from spellbook to talent tree?! WTF blz.

Yeah. They said that basically they wanted most specs to start with a basic "rotation" and you get upward of 5-7 more buttons from talent choices. They can't simplify without removing a few buttons and there's little point in simply throwing away spells that everyone already knows.

This isn't like WoD in which they said "we're pruning" and then did squat to almost any spec aside from Blood. This is a case of them literally pulling buttons to an optional tab so a spec can actually vary heavily from player to player.

[Tenjen]

Blizzard headquarter: Guys, people still can't figure out this extremely easy thing with talents and such, my idea would to simplify it even more so now you don't even need to change weapons, all classes are basically the same all of them have a resource, now how can we dumb this game down to Diablo 3.

Ahuh. The classes and trees are more systemically and thematically different than ever before and people spout this crap. We get weapons which we can change ourselves (beyond just stats but with actual functions and talent tree level stuff as we level it up) through talent trees and cosmetics and people spout this crap.

[Deleted]

Blizzard headquarter: Guys, people still can't figure out this extremely easy thing with talents and such, my idea would to simplify it even more so now you don't even need to change weapons, all classes are basically the same all of them have a resource, now how can we dumb this game down to Diablo 3.

"So now you don't even need to change weapons" - How is getting a new weapon and exchanging it with your old one (granted that it is better) any difficult? Artifact Weapons is one of the best decisions they have made in a long time. Along with taking a hard look at all specs to see what was redundant, and how they could add new interesting things. Talents that more often than not have no clear winner.

Legion is, from what we know and have seen so far, going to be one of the best expansions ever.

[Skulkesyk]

Lookin good!

[Donald Hellscream]

Blizzard headquarter: Guys, people still can't figure out this extremely easy thing with talents and such, my idea would to simplify it even more so now you don't even need to change weapons, all classes are basically the same all of them have a resource, now how can we dumb this game down to Diablo 3.

While they may just have removed spells and made them talents, it still offers more interesting choices than passive talents that just give you a x% chance to reset y spell etc.

Besides Bloodworm hype!

[Tomana]

Those talent trees are looking good, choices are not obvious from the first glance, which is a good thing(tm)

[Deleted]

Those talent trees are looking good, choices are not obvious from the first glance, which is a good thing(tm)

But they are! I will take mainly passive talents on every character.

[Rikkof]

Ahuh. The classes and trees are more systemically and thematically different than ever before and people spout this crap. We get weapons which we can change ourselves (beyond just stats but with actual functions and talent tree level stuff as we level it up) through talent trees and cosmetics and people spout this crap.

FANBOY ALERT
You would eat sh...t if Blizzard would feed you with a spoon filled with it

[Deleted]

But they are! I will take mainly passive talents on every character.

Agreed usually in PvE the way to go is passives so i will mostly go passive anyway. Biggest concern for me is the shaman talents, we already have millions cds to press now we are given even more on every row. Altough im not sure wich spells they have removed. But i still see a cd based class :/

[Keile]

So those Cute but Deadly figures?

Got a Kerrigan one in this months Loot Crate....and she came headless (they just don't spawn Queens of Blades like they used to!). They are very low quality compared to the Funko minis....

[Dandeleon]

I only see one bear form from artifacts... No other Artifact Form for Feral and Guardians was datamined ?

[Tomana]

But they are! I will take mainly passive talents on every character.

I can't speak for all classes, of course. But for pal and rogue, the choices look interesting (until someone maths everything out of course).
I'm not too keen on the "let's force holy pals into melee" talents, however, hopefully it won't be mandatory.