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    Worst classes in dungeons?

    I am doing lot of hc on all my alts and I noticed ,when there are bad players in group, they are always from few classes and specs, namely:Ret pallies, DKs of all specs, fury warriors and hunters.
    Worst ones I encountered are ret pallies, I would say there is about 80% chance for ret pally to be really bad when i notice him in my group. By bad, i mean wrong gearing, standing in fire, realllyyyy low dps, rolling on all loot etc. I almost never encounter bad druid or mage or shammy.
    So, im interested does everyone have similar experience or im just having bad luck grouping with bad rets. I know all this made me generalising whole ret pally class/spec, but it looks like new or old bad players prefer to play those classes cos they are "cool" or smth.

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    I rarely get DK, most I have come across are relatively good.
    Most casters I get are horrible, I get a lot of them.
    I also get a lot of horrible healers when I tank, likewise I often get horrible tanks when I heal.
    I once got a 4/5 guild run and they were all horrible, wiped like 7 times in deadmines (only stayed cus I needed something off vanessa and I was already saved) due to the tank not being able to tank more than 1 mob, the healer not healing the npcs during the ripsnarl nightmare, tank tanking foe reaper's harvest.... pretty much everything possible.

    A lot of people play this game, in a lot of different specs. You're just as likely to get a bad mage or druid as you would pally or dk, fwiw.

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    90% of the low level hunters I meet in dungeons are annoying, rather than terrible. They brag about their dps constantly by pulling before the tank, dragging mobs off to "solo" them, not caring about aggro, etc.

    Sure it can be done considering the hunters rarely if ever die, but it isn't fun for the rest of the group to run after the mobs the hunter pulls.

    The worst hunters I meet is during a wailing caverns run, usually...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maniac2 View Post
    I am doing lot of hc on all my alts and I noticed ,when there are bad players in group, they are always from few classes and specs, namely:Ret pallies, DKs of all specs, fury warriors and hunters.
    Worst ones I encountered are ret pallies, I would say there is about 80% chance for ret pally to be really bad when i notice him in my group. By bad, i mean wrong gearing, standing in fire, realllyyyy low dps, rolling on all loot etc. I almost never encounter bad druid or mage or shammy.
    So, im interested does everyone have similar experience or im just having bad luck grouping with bad rets. I know all this made me generalising whole ret pally class/spec, but it looks like new or old bad players prefer to play those classes cos they are "cool" or smth.
    You forgot mage, not all mages but the ones that run frost nova then proceed to aoe everything before the tank has had a chance to hit anything.

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    i find that the worst that i usually get are mages and warlocks for both attitude and ability (Sorry to generalize) but close behind them would be paladins and DK's

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    So much hate on huntards :<
    We're nice guys!

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    For level 85+ dungeons, the rudest class I tend to find would be holy paladins. I don't know why, but they just seem so bitter and with huge e-peens...

    Also female draenei resto shamans. Yes, I'll be that specific. Not sure why, but a lot of the ones I find nag about the slightest thing, even if you aren't actually doing anything wrong.

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    For me it's probably DKs, 4 months into cataclysm you would think they would realize that Blood presence isn't a DPS presence, Not to mention the random Death Grips.

    Also at Low levels, I've had problems with Feral Tanks. But i wouldn't say its the players fault tbh... AoE threat is kinda shitty.

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    There are no bad classes, just bad players.
    The reason you notice a lot of melee screwing up is that you can seen what they're doing all the time.
    And hunters, well we like to accidentally pull extra groups because of steady shot picking new targets when something dies.
    Also bad hunters like to use tenacity pets with Growl on autocast in 5 mans.

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    Leveling my warrior shaman 1-80; this is what I've seen so far:

    Mages Warlocks are the usual trolls I find, very rude and obnoxious.
    Hunters normally go ahead of me and pull more when I tank. And ofc I let them die or let them kill it as I move on.
    Rogues seem to AFK a lot, and just /follow people. Sometimes the same with feral druids.
    Lately I've seen alot of Disc Priests who only use PW:S and Penance, and then tell me they have no other heals and just tell me I am bad.
    DK's always DG a target while they are doing 60-70; then I tell them it's a taunt, the occasional 'oh sorry, didn't know' and they go back to DG'ing
    Warriors seem to charge targets when the tank face pulls or taunts them to him, then die with the overthreat the tank can't beat.

    um... Paladins are the only ones who are a certain spec then roll need on every other spec saying it's their OS, even though I know they are going to replace it in a level or two or never use it. DK's fresh out of leveling will roll need on weapons/gear from places like HFR, BF from people in greens, though their blue armor can easily take them through all of OL's or at least till zones past 76.

    Just some of the things I have noticed about certain classes. Not saying everyone does it, or are limited to these, just saying the generic trend of that class that i've seen.

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    dont hate the class. hate the player

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starskee View Post
    There are no bad classes, just bad players.
    Well, I kinda agree with that, but in my exp bad players tend to choose same specs/classes (ret pallies, dks, dps warrs and hunters). wondering whats so "cool" about those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyania View Post
    Leveling my warrior shaman 1-80; this is what I've seen so far:


    Lately I've seen alot of Disc Priests who only use PW:S and Penance, and then tell me they have no other heals and just tell me I am bad.
    In all fairness, on my level 54 priest those are pretty much the only two spells I've needed so far and nobody has died yet with me as healer :P

    I'm sure that will change at higher level, though.

    I've noticed that most of the "bad" players I come across are simply those I consider rude. I'd rather carry a truly unskilled person that happens to be nice rather than some jerk that causes drama with the group.

    I also hate most tank/healer combos that queue together; they almost always verbally harass people.

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    I've seen a sharp increase in holy pala's joining as dps and spamming exorcism... Also ret pala's claiming they can't interrupt because their rebuke "doesn't work"; i feel ashamed having a pala as main :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthrot View Post
    I've seen a sharp increase in holy pala's joining as dps and spamming exorcism...
    Two months ago i leveled my holy pala thru 80-85 with exorcism spam with 264 icc gear and it was really fast. So i tried going as dps in a heroic at lvl 85 - it was horrible, i was ashamed with my dps and left after few pulls and never tried again.) BUt never hurts to try smth new ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthrot View Post
    I've seen a sharp increase in holy pala's joining as dps and spamming exorcism... Also ret pala's claiming they can't interrupt because their rebuke "doesn't work"; i feel ashamed having a pala as main :P
    Well, to be fair as soon as Holy pallies have access to Denounce they take off in damage and leveling speed (my 70 holy pally is -boring- to me now because of the sheer easiness in leveling) , it's very possible they're "new" and instead of teaching them better most insult and kick. Though since they made ret require more than "click pretty flashing buttons to make things go dead" to perform well I've noticed they stand out more. Genuine Newbies are willing to be polite and learn, "n00bs" are just asses who never learn.

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    I do some tanking on low levels with alts - by far the worst class is hunters pulling everything, growl on pet (if they have one out ), NEVER dpsing marked targets and so on.
    the other annoying group is frost mages - I pull from distance and they freeze my targets, I silence the caster to come to me - it gets frozen...
    And last but not least is dps warriors - I pull from distance they charge in...

    But I would agree you meet retards regardles of class

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    my first char was a paladin, and though i enjoy playing it alot, now freshly dinged 85 ret i often get wierd faces from people that expect me to be bad. me running in greens and blues still manage to get 8-10K dps out on bosses, but sometimes even results in a instakick before i can even prove myself.
    stop the hate against paladins!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maniac2 View Post
    Well, I kinda agree with that, but in my exp bad players tend to choose same specs/classes (ret pallies, dks, dps warrs and hunters). wondering whats so "cool" about those?
    Either because in baddy player's mind these classes are amazing, or they just don't have the mental capacity to play a role that has any kind of responsibility.

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    any class that isn't a tank and does the pulling... me as a healer, i let them die then...
    and yeah, they whine even laying down on the floor (HEALER? WTFCK)...

    makes me laugh all the time...

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