Bear 4.3 Non-Heroic BiS List

[RandomGamer]

Feral Bear 4.3 Non-Heroic BiS Gear List

Auroro posted a LFR BiS List here.
Heroic BiS List here.

Head

Nocturnal Gaze Valor Points

Neck

Cataclysmic Gladiators necklace of Prowess Conquest Points or Baradin Hold (Alizabal)

Cameo of Terrible Memories Valor Points

Shoulder

Deep Earth Spaulders Tier Token (Hagara the Stormbinder)

Back

Backwing Cloak Valor Points

Chest

Deep Earth Raiment Tier Token (Ultraxion)

Bracers

Bladeshadow Wristguards Leatherworking

Hands

Deep Earth Grips Tier Token (Warlord Zon'ozz)

Belt

Belt of Hidden Keys Valor Points
Belt of Flayed Skin (Warlord Zon'ozz)

Legs

Deep Earth Legguards Tier Token (Yor'sahj the Unsleeping)
Bladeshadow Leggings Leatherworking (No Tier x 4 pz Raid Cooldown)

Boots

Rooftop Griptoes Valor Points

Rings

Emergency descent loop Valor Points
Seal of primordial shadow Boss Drop (Dragon Soul)
Signet of grasping mouths (Hagara the Stormbinder)

Trinkets (Stamina)

Indomitable pride Boss Drop (Dragon Soul)
Soulshifter vortex (Yor'sahj the Unsleeping)

Trinkets (Agility)

Wrath of unchaining (Spine of Deathwing)
Starcatcher compass (Warmaster Blackhorn)
Vial of shadows Boss Drop (Dragon Soul)

Trinkets (Other)

Resolve of undying (Spine of Deathwing)
Fire of the deep Valor Points

Relic

Ripfang Relic Valor Points

Weapon

Kiril, Fury of Beasts (Madness of Deathwing)
Spire of Coagulated Globules (Yor'sahj the Unsleeping)

Will update according to feedback

[Arielle]

Neck is wrong. Should be PvP neck.

Grasping Mouths isn't even close to the other two, no point in listing it.

Kiril beats Spire by a mile.

Edit: Offset pants (crafted) are actually better than the tier pants. So if you don't need the raid CD, you should be using those.

[rumbleweed]

Edit: Offset pants (crafted) are actually better than the tier pants. So if you don't need the raid CD, you should be using those.

The pants he's talking about are Bladeshadow Leggings (DS zone drop recipe)

[RandomGamer]

Neck is wrong. Should be PvP neck.

I usually wouldn't consider any PvP gear, but due to the very poor itemization on the only other non-heroic neck available I'll include it. For heroic list need to check how Rag HC neck compares to the pvp one.

[Arielle]

I usually wouldn't consider any PvP gear, but due to the very poor itemization on the only other non-heroic neck available I'll include it. For heroic list need to check how Rag HC neck compares to the pvp one.

I'll save you the time. Heroic Rag one is better.

[Auroro]

The pants he's talking about are Bladeshadow Leggings (DS zone drop recipe)

T13 is good, with the head being useless to us, the T13 leg come out ahead.

[Arielle]

T13 is good, with the head being useless to us, the T13 leg come out ahead.

Only if you need the set bonus. Otherwise they're worse.

On a fight like Morchok or Haggara I wouldn't bother with the bonus since there's virtually no raid damage on normal mode.

[ragemaw]

the bracers should be the VP ones. much better itemization.

[RandomGamer]

the bracers should be the VP ones. much better itemization.

Is the better itemization worth 80 agility (60 with blue gems) ?

[FalinMor]

The bracers should be the VP bracers.

183 Mastery and 106 Crit is better than 60 Agility and 4 Dodge.

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Is the better itemization worth 80 agility (60 with blue gems) ?

Yeah it is. Not by a lot, but it is. I'm talking using two Epics in the slots, not two blues. It's considerably better than 2 blues, but only slightly better than two epics.

[Deleted]

Why wouldn't a bear tank go with both the trinket that stacks agi and the trinket that stacks dodge?
I'm not a bear, just curious cause it seems like it would be a good choice doesn't it?

[FalinMor]

Why wouldn't a bear tank go with both the trinket that stacks agi and the trinket that stacks dodge?
I'm not a bear, just curious cause it seems like it would be a good choice doesn't it?

In certain situations, a trinket with a large on-use for Dodge (like Fire of the Deep) can be better than one that offers a smaller, constant increase to Dodge or Agility. Decimation Blade on Baleroc is one example of this.

Every once in a while, fight mechanics may favor a bigger health pool over more avoidance (almost never in Normal modes though).

It's a good idea for any tank to have a variety of trinkets they can swap out depending on the situation

[Arielle]

The bracers should be the VP bracers.

183 Mastery and 106 Crit is better than 60 Agility and 4 Dodge.

This is especially true once you have 2t13.

[Druid cookie]

I'm just glad we're getting an item with some bonus armor. 700 free armor is amazing (normal mode of course). I wish there was a really good armor trinket that procced dodge or mastery though.