Grom Hellscream's "redepmtion" was only in reversing the damnation he put upon the Orcs by drinking the blood of Mannoroth. It doesn't erase anything else he's done in the past and hardly makes him redeemed in anyone else' eyes, even his own son's until Thrall told him otherwise, a big mistake.
This is how I see the cinimatic playing out for garrosh.
We push him down to like 10k hp then voljin and varian show up (they were fighting the last bit of a enhanced malkorok). The scene starts with malkorok dead body being tossed inside the area we just fought garrosh at. Garrosh him self has cut and bruises but is still standing only barely tho.
Garrosh looks up at voljin,varian, and few nameless soliders(us). He picks up gorehowl,and goes back to his fighting stance:
Varian shakes his head:" it is over garrosh, your forces have been destroyed*shows previous bosses dying/being destroyed*
Voljin draws his bow and aims at garrosh:" lay down ya weapon and surrender and ya can see anothe day"
Garrosh laughs and charges at varian while voljin shoots the bow , the first arrow missing, varian and garrosh battle a little as garrosh talks.
Garrosh " I am a hellscream! The WARCHEIF of the true horde. You both are fools if you think this will end me!
Garrosh bushes varian back but is shot in the chest by another arrow,causing him to fall to a knee.
Garrosh coughs and talks" voljin..you and these traitorous champions think..that the alliance will accept you now? Bah they will turn on you..only seeing you as fodder and beast...
Thrall interupts him,walking in along with anduwin" you are wrong garrosh. The alliance is changing just as we have.mthe time of war for our pity differences is comming to end.
Anduwin:no more blood shed has to be wasted for old hatreds..the long war of our kind will finally end.
Garrosh breaths heavy and stands, looking at the four before limping over to the missed arrow: you two believe peace will last...*he laughs and picks up the arrow* you will see..once a greater threat comes..there will be no peace..no working together...* he raises the arrow * a shame I will not be here to be your trophy and see you fall apart!!*starys to ram the arrow into his heart but is knocked out but anduwin*
*voljin shakes his head*
*thrall walks over to garrosh, taking gorehowl from him* i was wrong to think you were like your father..*he stands and looks at varian who walked over and gripped his blade looking at garrosh*
From this point the cinimatic is done and you can loot the copse ( unconscious garrosh) you can speak to thrall or varian for more dialuoge after the loot is done afterwards.
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
If he's going to die I really hope it will be glorious death. Blizzard fucked up his character so much, he's doesnt deserve all these hate. He jsut wanted to be a hero of Horde and tried all his best to achieve full scale victory. Should citizens of the Horde really feel bad about Theramore? don't think so, I would be happy that potential threat was destroyed.
I hope if he's going to die, he will put to shame Thrall and other Horde leaders for being so passive about whats going on in the Horde, he was the first one who stepped up and wanted to do something with shitty situations of Orcs, when Thrall palying mr nice guy, Vol'jin was kissing frogs, Sylvanas plotting to kill all the living, and rest becaisly doing nothing.
I understand Horde can hate Garrosh when he wil use some mogu powers to create warriors, or Sha, but now? they should praise him, because he's the only person doing something for the Horde. WTF is wrong with people who hate him.
I'll be by Vol'jin's side as he lands the finishing blow, a quick strike to kill him.
Currently Procrastinating
What's wrong with ppl who hate him?
Here is my slight idea.
*someone drives by in a van wagon*
Guy1 what's that
Guy2 it's a new can wagon
Guy 1 should we join it?
Guy in van. It is new and I love/hate it for reason.
Guy 1 n 2 .....OMG
*all three are in van wagon*
*one month later 50 van wagons filled with random ppl go by*
Old guy1 wtf were we thinking..?
Guy2. I think we were consumed the newness of stuff....
---------- Post added 2012-11-19 at 04:39 PM ----------
Probably..I think there were a few high clans...kinda why it was pretty big that grom the warsong leader drunk first and others followed..same reason Guldan used the first WARCHEIF as puppet cause his clan wad kinda big back then.
uhhh....your explanation is so very confusing
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
Durotan was a top spiritual leader by virtue of being leader of the Frostwolves right next to Oshu'gun, he fled with the Frostwolf clan to Azeroth before the Orcs went all to hell, but he was murdered by Gul'dan when he returned to warn Orgrim Doomhammer about the blood pact.
The Frostwolves are the only guilt-free clan in all of Orcish society, a great irony of their existence is they seek to ward Alterac valley from being pillaged and strip mined by the Dwarves in a parallel to the Night Elves defending Ashenvale from the Orcs who wish to do the same thing to their home. With the exception of aid from the Horde by order of Thrall for the battle in the valley, Frostwolves are neutral wanting nothing to do with Horde campaigns, especially under Garrosh's rule.
Because that worked out so well with Doomhammer...
Anyway, imo no redemption for Garrosh. If blizz is going this route with him, I'd go all the way with it, and have Garrosh fully corrupted by his pride and hatred and power, dying little more than a monster. Maybe some final line about him having done so to build a future for the orcs, but nothing to redeem him.
Though I do think on some fronts, such as killing Cairne, Garrosh gets too much flak, with some people completely overlooking what Cairne did wrong in that book and just going 'omg he killed Cairne, he is teh evil!'
I might cry ;(
Hopefully he goes out with a bang though, just like his father.
Better yet a ghostly appearance by his father would be awesome.
But wsnt Ner'zhul still the High Shaman or what not?
Isnt thats why Big K went straight to him
---------- Post added 2012-11-20 at 12:54 AM ----------
pew pew
Why did Blizz have to turn such a badass Orc into a villian.
Hopefully they introduce another awsome-sauce Orc
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
From wowpedia
Ner'zhul was the chieftain and elder shaman of the Shadowmoon clan and one of the most popular figures in orcish society. He was admired, respected and venerated by all for his deep connection to the spirits, and was the closest thing the orcish race had to a single leader prior to the foundation of the Horde
So yeah he was THE shaman ppl went to.
---------- Post added 2012-11-19 at 04:58 PM ----------
When did they make it clear we won't kill him? Usually defeat in this game means kill.
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"