My first 72 hour ban on the wow fourms..

[Deleted]

Would not have bothered me much I suppose it if was something blatantly obvious. but again seen stuff like "I posted it in the deleted thread" or "those threads are gone now" and never giving it a sec thought, wondering if one of the mods got coal in the old stocking and was just in a bad mood.

That would be referring to a locked/removed thread. Don´t do that. If your discussing something, there is never a good reason to refer to a locked thread. If you posted something in the locked thread you think is useful here, repost it.

What does it matter to anyone, that you posted something in a removed thread?

[George Costanza]

I am at my 2nd permabann now . though I believe a 2 months forum ban for saying "Well, fuck." is kind of harsh... I do sometimes not understand blizzards reasoning for banning me for one thing while the other was received worse by players. Recently got a ban for posting a youtube clip as a reaction .

[Dadwen]

That would be referring to a locked/removed thread. Don´t do that. If your discussing something, there is never a good reason to refer to a locked thread. If you posted something in the locked thread you think is useful here, repost it.

What does it matter to anyone, that you posted something in a removed thread?

Didn't say I was posted in them just following them (may have posted in one or two getting old trying to keep track of what is said were when it disappears), think they would have the tech now over there to merge them rather than delete.

[Deleted]

Didn't say I was posted in them just following them (may have posted in one or two getting old trying to keep track of what is said were when it disappears), think they would have the tech now over there to merge them rather than delete.

Read your own post dude, the one i quoted. That was the point i was addressing.

But to transfer the point, What does it matter to anyone that you were following some threads, that are now deleted? Keep that to yourself, do not post about locked or deleted threads. It is very simple.

And the other posters you see doing it, is also getting bans, if a mods sees it.

[Funky303]

Yes it is. A non-constructive post is one that does not add to a discussion. To put it another way, if you merely replied to someone and said "I disagree", how would that be adding to the discussion, unless you went on to explain why?

Well it DOES count. He adds his position in the discussion. If someone else gave all the arguments pro or contra something, and he shares the same arguments, his "i agree/disagree with XY) is a valid argument and also for other people a sign to know which side is bigger. If he only ads "I disagree", that's something different.

From the first sticky in Guild Recruitment:
"Do not "bump" posts.
The act of posting simply to bump a thread is considered spamming. This also includes bumping very old threads for no reason (called "necro bumping" or "necroing")."

Alastair, you can claim that you think the rules are unfair, and you can claim that you think that the moderators are not consistent in their enforcing of them, but you cannot claim that these rules don't exist, and you cannot claim that you haven't been in clear violation of them at least twice so far.

That's right, but most of the recruiting threads get bumped all the time. So they should a.) ban anyone who answers in such a thread without the answer beeing a question to guild policy, raiding policy etc. or b.) stop banning people.

Just for the recruiting forum: I'd also get banned if i opened a new recruiting thread when I'd look for new recruits month later. So just for the recruiting channel: the necroing bump shouldn't be bannable.

[Tommi]

Apparently bringing a bot to the attention of the community is a perma ban >.>

Origination:
Forums / Comments

Ban Type:Harassment

Expires:Permanent

Reason: Naming and shaming post; targeting another individual to cause distress, embarrassment, unwanted attention, or other personal discomfort. I.e. harassment: http://eu.battle.net/en/community/conduct

By: Corlena, L90 Pandaren Monk, <Eternal Serenity>, Twisting Nether
Forum > Darksorrow
Thread Title:
@ Corrie of CR
Reply #1
Timestamp:
08-Dec-2012 21:59:14
You provided us with some entertainment today when you were botting. I would like to thank you for this with a nice video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQmUmNFdQHA

[Deleted]

Well it DOES count. He adds his position in the discussion. If someone else gave all the arguments pro or contra something, and he shares the same arguments, his "i agree/disagree with XY) is a valid argument and also for other people a sign to know which side is bigger. If he only ads "I disagree", that's something different.

What?

If everyone who agreed to a post, would post that they agreed, we would see, 200-300 "i agree" posts per post with substance.

Simply saying i agree, is not and will never be constructive, in a medium as large as this, a medium which should not be swayed by popular belief, but insightful debating. This is not a town meeting, where we need to tally up opinions.

[Funky303]

What?

If everyone who agreed to a post, would post that they agreed, we would see, 200-300 "i agree" posts per post with substance.

Simply saying i agree, is and will never be constructive, in a medium as large as this, a medium which should not be swayed by popular belief, but insightful debating. This is not a town meeting, where we need to tally up opinions.

Well guess once how a VOTE works.

Or another thing: There would be a thread: CRZ sucks. And one person sais yes it sucks, the other no it doesnt. Then we could close that threat because we have all possible answers, the rest is just arguments against or pro. So why even still allow discussions when we already have the answers.

I for myself like to read a thread and then want to roughly know how many people are with or against the TE. That gives me a feeling if the problem is worth answering or not, or relevant or not etc.

Every better forum (but not Blizzards own) has a thumbs up/down feature. That works wonders. For example the comments on wowhead. Many thumbs up => comment on top of the other comments.

And banning someone because he quotes someone and then sais "I agree" is utter bullshit. Why do you think there is a Quote-function implemented? Exactly. To quote and not having to repeat everything other people already wrote.

I do agree that quoting and then posting only "I don't agree" is worth for an EDIT by a Mod with "Do you mind tell us why?", but not even a ban for that. If the guy always posts JUST "I disagree" everywhere, then it's something different.

Even both ways would work:

Splitting a quote from someone else in two parts and then answering to one "I agree" and to the second one " I disagree" does at least give a oppinion, even though it is not such a valuable one. But it is a valid option. And getting banned for such a thing is pure bullshit. On the other hand, Blizzard could hire 1 million Mods and they still could not control most of the crap what's in the official forums. So there has to be some quite fast and furious banhammer thing before it gets out of hand of the Mods.

And I also do believe that many people who get banned are kind of a victim of the way a ban gets done by Blizzard. Before a Mod/CM bans someone, the post must have been reported. That report opens a ticket in the ticketing software in the callcenter where the Mods work. Mod opens the ticket, reads the text, maybe the quoted post above and then bans the writer mostly without even reading 2-3 other things from the thread.

I got a funny ban some years ago (ingame, not on the forums) for some really out of context thing. There are sentences called Palindromes. For instance Lagerregal. If you read it from the end, it's still the same thing. And there is a more or less famous german song with the line: "Von hinten wie von vorne, A N N A." I wrote two other, one having Neger (Nigger) from behind is Regen (rain) so the sentence is " ein neger mit gazelle zagt im regen nie". I got a 3 day ban, which was reduced to a 8 hr ban. When I noticed the ban, the 8 hours were already done. But even although I had a nice email conversation with Blizzard, they didn't want to recall the ban.

[Sparkalark]

Anyone with an opinion worth reading has either already been banned or has completely given up on the forums anyways. Nothing left but bronys and fan service. Same thing is happening here too.

[MoanaLisa]

problem is I've seen every reply in a thread reported before just because someone didn't like the subject even though there was no way they could be against the TOS.

If you don't have anything in your posts that's against the rules (like I said to start with) you won't have a problem. As a matter of fact, Blizzard will suspend/ban people who continuously report posts that are fine.

Trust me when I say to you that that sort of thing is very easy to see.

[Dadwen]

If you don't have anything in your posts that's against the rules (like I said to start with) you won't have a problem. As a matter of fact, Blizzard will suspend/ban people who continuously report posts that are fine.

Trust me when I say to you that that sort of thing is very easy to see.

Just seemed to me that saying those threads were gone is the same as questing their moderations

*here is the exact quote was able to find it. "(so far just in the last day seen about 6 I was following gone)" word for word no edit.

and this was made in responding to someone else, I quoted them in the post.

[BeastmasterGuardian]

There would be a thread: CRZ sucks. And one person sais yes it sucks, the other no it doesnt. Then we could close that threat because we have all possible answers, the rest is just arguments against or pro. So why even still allow discussions when we already have the answers.

Your guess is as good as mine. While I agree that Blizz wants people to use the forum to express their like or dislike of a feature, it is ultimately the community that will argue your personal opinion. When opinions get challenged, the fight naturally ensues. Are the following statements true or false, based on fact or opinion:

1. CRZ sucks - Opinion
2. CRZ has glitches to be worked out - Fact
3. CRZ wreaked havoc on PvP servers - Opinion
4. CRZ allowed cross realm gankers to have more targets - Fact
5. PvP happens on a PvP realm and Blizzard approves - Fact
6. PvE is for people who want to PvP under their own terms - Fact

Now, as most of these are still subjective, and loosely based on fact, each one can be dissected as personal opinion. Threads are the exact same thing. While posting in a forum may seem like a safe bet, you can almost be certain that some opposing personality will want to argue with you til they are blue in the keyboard simply because you failed to agree with their opinion after they belittled yours. I think some people just have a hard time communicating their thoughts on the matter and it is just easier to fight about it

Either way, it's the house rules we have to play by... or they kick us out of the casino and we never get to play again.

[Kasierith]

Apparently bringing a bot to the attention of the community is a perma ban >.>

Well, ya... it's right there in the code of conduct. If you wanted to bring it to the attention of your community, use trade chat. If you want to bring it to the attention of blizzard, send an email/use the report function. There's no reason to put his name up on the forums, even without it being a violation of the CoC.

If you don't have anything in your posts that's against the rules (like I said to start with) you won't have a problem. As a matter of fact, Blizzard will suspend/ban people who continuously report posts that are fine.

Trust me when I say to you that that sort of thing is very easy to see.

Even if I fully understand its purpose, I've never been particularly happy with this policy's presence. There are, of course, situations where it is definitely recognizable, but ultimately there's a fine line between a sharp retort and a personal attack, and if someone happens to be slightly off in that regard I feel that there are a few people who can be judged harshly for something that they did not intend to do (ie report spam innocent posts).

[Dadwen]

Either way, it's the house rules we have to play by... or they kick us out of the casino and we never get to play again.

seems like the official forums are sliding into only nonsensical stuff and becoming useless anyway, kinda sad when more/all/any game info I’m looking for comes from here a third party site and none from theirs, maybe they know it and that’s why that feedback thread awhile back struck a nerve.

[BeastmasterGuardian]

seems like the official forums are sliding into only nonsensical stuff and becoming useless anyway, kinda sad when more/all/any game info I’m looking for comes from here a third party site and none from theirs, maybe they know it and that’s why that feedback thread awhile back struck a nerve.

Agreed. I find the people here much more tolerable and tend to ignore some of the long running threads that just dont matter I'm much happier on this site.

[ipaq]

nothing great either, was a post on page 16 on another thread that 6 other threads I were following were deleted?

Mods over there going a bit loco?

*didn't even get in any name calling or rage just got it because I said I was posting on thread moderation under the section of Ban Type:
"other"

I got perma banned for that:

By: ___________
Forum > General Discussion
Thread Title:
Report AFK and you
Reply #1
Timestamp: Aug 18, 2011 3:30:39 PM

PS: To the troll that is about to write something about "QQ you where afk".

You will get instant kicked out while carrying the flag, mid fight, while rezzing.

So it seems that [Report AFK] has become a popularity contest.

Now you will get instant kicked, get a 15 minutes debuff and maybe perma ban depending how many people report you afk during a BG.

Now since the Blizzard GM says its working as intended:

. Do not talk in /bg;
. Follow the group;
. Use this macro every 30 seconds:
/run for i=1,GetNumRaidMembers()-1 do local unit = "raid"..i local name,realm = UnitName(unit) if(realm) then ReportPlayerIsPVPAFK(name.."-"..realm) else ReportPlayerIsPVPAFK(name) end end

Or enjoy being banned for doing Random BG and annoying the nerd herd.

They (Blizzard) really didn't like to be showed off.

[Rivellana]

Agreed. I find the people here much more tolerable and tend to ignore some of the long running threads that just dont matter I'm much happier on this site.

I'd have to agree with that! The only reason I ever even visit the official forums is to occasionally read class-related posts. I never post there.

[Funky303]

Your guess is as good as mine. While I agree that Blizz wants people to use the forum to express their like or dislike of a feature, it is ultimately the community that will argue your personal opinion. When opinions get challenged, the fight naturally ensues. Are the following statements true or false, based on fact or opinion:

1. CRZ sucks - Opinion
2. CRZ has glitches to be worked out - Fact
3. CRZ wreaked havoc on PvP servers - Opinion
4. CRZ allowed cross realm gankers to have more targets - Fact
5. PvP happens on a PvP realm and Blizzard approves - Fact
6. PvE is for people who want to PvP under their own terms - Fact

Well to the assertion "CRZ sucks" from the TE, there are just two answers: yes or no. I can agree with him, or I can disagree. There is no gray area. The reasons WHY his assertion/claim is wrong are on another sheet ^^.

Now, as most of these are still subjective, and loosely based on fact, each one can be dissected as personal opinion. Threads are the exact same thing. While posting in a forum may seem like a safe bet, you can almost be certain that some opposing personality will want to argue with you til they are blue in the keyboard simply because you failed to agree with their opinion after they belittled yours. I think some people just have a hard time communicating their thoughts on the matter and it is just easier to fight about it

Either way, it's the house rules we have to play by... or they kick us out of the casino and we never get to play again.

I can remember when some Blue once told that the forums are there just because of the goodwill of Blizzard and not a thing they HAVE to do. And most of their rules are there just to protect them from beeing sued or having to justifie for anything they do. The TOS/Forum rules are so narrow and wide that Blizzard can do anything they want.

seems like the official forums are sliding into only nonsensical stuff and becoming useless anyway, kinda sad when more/all/any game info I’m looking for comes from here a third party site and none from theirs, maybe they know it and that’s why that feedback thread awhile back struck a nerve.

QFT.

[Kasierith]

I can remember when some Blue once told that the forums are there just because of the goodwill of Blizzard and not a thing they HAVE to do. And most of their rules are there just to protect them from beeing sued or having to justifie for anything they do. The TOS/Forum rules are so narrow and wide that Blizzard can do anything they want.

Well, it's their forum. You pay for the game, ultimately, and the forums are only a decent benefit off to the side.

[Queen of Hamsters]

If you get banned, you did something to deserve it. Man up and confess to what you did, and don't do it again.

I have been banned once, why? Because I posted a small rant over how uninspired and f-ck bad it was of them to make the Gilnean horses use the normal human horse models, and not even any form of Gilnean crest or saddle or reins. I got banned, got back and haven't repeated it since.