There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't..
If everyone can fly, it doesn't
That clearly isn't trueI dont care how others play the game,
I could ask who you're competing with so vehemently and for what, but frankly, the game was plenty "immersive" when flying was allowed.I just want to be able to function at normal efficiency while being immersed. Flying makes that impossible since it is an advantage in every single way.
...as in every point from Burning Crusade till now.
Unless you for some reason started hating the game in Burning Crusade, in which case I wonder why you continue to play. Especially when so many people like flying mounts.
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“Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
Words to live by.
Read what was stated before posting. No one said it wasn't more time consuming in vanilla than it is today.
What you say here is all true - but the argument is that this was still casual compared to the market at the time. Thus WoW was still the casual mmo in vanilla.
It has always been a casual mmo - the degrees in which it has made life more convenient have increased over time, but you can't argue that it wasn't super casual compared to Everquest of Ultima and thus a casual mmo.
Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
Looking pretty bleak for this xpac already, this policy is completely anti alts, and like someone said earlier, alts keeps people going longer O.O is this measure trying to cater to you "no flying mounts" fanboys =/
Add Skettis birds to the air. Those things made me fear the air in skettis..... the memories of SQUAWK TWEET DEAD.
Blizzard lazy way of artificially extending the content, nothing new here.
If you don't like it, unsub.
This game is an empty shell at this point.
If people hate flying so much, why do they buy it every expansion? They are welcome not to train it and use flightpoints... but they don't
WoW has constantly make everything more and more convenient over the years:
Mount (yes, even ground mount)
Fly Mounts
Portals
LFD
LFR
Flex mode
Just a bit weird that they suddenly take a step back that's all. About the "need to stop flying in order for them to create a questing experience they visioned", how about build in the idea "people can fly" in the vision and build the questing experience with that in mind?
Oh well just wondering.
Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
Once again, this is an assumption; nowhere(that I have seen), does it say this must be done on every single character. There is no point is assuming this, since they could easily have it apply to all characters once it is done on one character. Wait for more details before judging it.
Another reason to be against this: We have no idea when 6.1 will come out. Even if they announced a time frame something could delay it or they could purposely delay it to make it "more fun." So a two month wait could turn into an eight month wait.
It was a good idea to make the encounters that difficult. The only thing that prevented the 99% from seeing the higher raids was their own ineptitude. Even then I'm not sure what the actual numbers are for people who never reached max level. I think adding hardmode was a little too extreme, and that the Vanilla/BC model was best for raiding. It makes the game last a lot longer if people are working on different content at different times. Some people made it into Black Temple during the end of TBC which is fine, because when they got to see the content it was well earned. I was in a guild on an alt that killed Lady Vashj for the first time a year and a half after SSC came out and vent exploded with delight at the accomplishment. Raiding is handed out and content is consumed far too fast in wows current model. A few things were over the top back then, like having to constantly recruit new players and attune them to BT. However, now that guild achievements exist a lot of this pain can largely be removed by providing a guild with the attunement and requiring X amount of members of the guild to be in the raid for it to open up.
Oh yes, because I'm sure being "apt" didn't relate entirely to fitting yourself into the little box that Tigole and Furor put you in where the only tanks were Warriors and the only DPS that were worth a shit were Warriors and Rogues, and maybe Johnny-Come-Lately the Shadowbolt spamming Warlock. All because they were butthurt over class performance in Everquest so every class other than their chosen favorites were hobbled to the point where raids had to have gimmicky shit like Tranq and banish rotations so other classes got a chance to raid at all.
OMG 13:37 - Then Jesus said to His disciples, "Cleave unto me, and I shall grant to thee the blessing of eternal salvation."
And His disciples said unto Him, "Can we get Kings instead?"
Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
Perhaps you should pass me something of what you are smoking, as I don't think you, the elitist-minded MMO champion poster, has any idea what you are talking about.
-Housing will be a boon to the hardcore elitists who want to show off the blood of their conquests. It will boost the hardcore auction house types.
-You get to skip 9/10ths of leveling - assuming you are looking to level up another alt. And the way it works, it's more like 40-50% of leveling, as the final levels of leveling tend to take as much time as the previous levels combined up to the current xpac
-EZmode heroics are already in the game, and in fact their rewards have been nerfed compared to wrath, bc, and cataclysm
-No dailies eh? How about we wait and see - Blizzard tends to replace one grind with another.
-Raiding modes will be ostensibly unchanged from how they work today for the lower end more casual player
-Leveling professions from 0-600 will be made easier, Blizz has always made it a challlenge to go to max level on professions in the current xpac, no reason to expect that to change
-Armor system... really? There hasn't been any thought put into armor since reforgelite came out in cataclysm. It's not more or less alt/casual friendly.
-Simplified stats... ibid from armor system
So... you have one thing that will favor the hardcore, and a bunch of stuff that is already in the game and neutral to the casual/alt player. And you have the gall to ask what I am smoking? Despite the previous removal of many conveniences, and further planned removal of the flying convenience.
Typical, typical, typical mmo champion elitist. Hope you enjoy the game when it will be only people like yourself left, because that's what it's coming to.
I am an alt player and I am NOT insulted --love the no fly design
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[QUOTE=Pyromelter;23666681\-Armor system... really? There hasn't been any thought put into armor since reforgelite came out in cataclysm. It's not more or less alt/casual friendly.
-Simplified stats... ibid from armor system
So... you have one thing that will favor the hardcore, and a bunch of stuff that is already in the game and neutral to the casual/alt player. And you have the gall to ask what I am smoking? Despite the previous removal of many conveniences, and further planned removal of the flying convenience.
Typical, typical, typical mmo champion elitist. Hope you enjoy the game when it will be only people like yourself left, because that's what it's coming to.[/QUOTE]
yes armour is now much simpler -- a pally only has to get 1 set not 3 , druid 1 set not 4 , most other classes 1 set not 2 . MUCH MUCH more casual friendly