Bolvar should awaken in about 1 year

[Immitis]

If we take as rule that new Lich King has to meditate for at least 5 years after coronation, then Bolvar should be awakened approximately on February 2015, which is probably 6.1 or 6.2

And even if Blizzard decides to not touch that untill next addon, it would be dissappointing to have Bolvar asleep for 7+ years.

P.S. I believe so because time in Azeroth follows real time IIRC and Lich King died in February 2010.

What do you think about that? They have created another version in this addon, would it be fitting to have new Northrend in next one?

Mistake in title: Half a year. Not 1 year.

time in wow does not follow real time. every expansion is a year. only 6 years will have passed by the end of warlords of draenor compared to the 12 or so years in real time

[Faustas]

I think we'll meet him in the last expansion (when we fight biiiig bad demon for the last time) demons will invade, ppl will start running and screaming omg omg the sky is falling, then Tirion will be like "psst psst, hey you, yes you, come here - remember when LK died? well there is something you must know..." then we'll do looong quest chain to get to him and say - hey dude wake up we need your dead army to distract big baddie or something like that.

[Immitis]

I think the idea is that while they are under the lich kings control it only stops them form going rampart across the lands, it doesn't stop them from being hostile to anything approaching them.

bolvar doesnt have control over any scourge outside of northrend he also doesnt have any control over the cult of the damned (since they were still living) and their own personally raised undead

[Gisen]

bolvar doesnt have control over any scourge outside of northrend he also doesnt have any control over the cult of the damned (since they were still living) and their own personally raised undead

Well yeah, those aren't scourge, but he should still control any scourge outside of northrend but I doubt theres any left.

[Immitis]

Well yeah, those aren't scourge, but he should still control any scourge outside of northrend but I doubt theres any left.

he doesnt, metzen said just like how the forsaken broke free when ner'zhul was losing power all the scourge outside northrend broke free when we defeated arthas and bolvar is still new and doesnt have full control over even the scourge in northrend yet

[Vaelorian]

he doesnt, metzen said just like how the forsaken broke free when ner'zhul was losing power all the scourge outside northrend broke free when we defeated arthas and bolvar is still new and doesnt have full control over even the scourge in northrend yet

Thats what I thought. So where are all these scourge then running rampant?

[Imnick]

Thats what I thought. So where are all these scourge then running rampant?

Full control presumably meaning "I can tell them not to do that but not to jump into a volcano", not "I only control half of them".

[Tekkommo]

I hope he stays forgotten and presumed dead.

Don't want no crap LK stuff again.

[Deleted]

You have to remember, there are still a lot of the cult of the damned roaming around. Who do necromancy and shit. They reanimate corpses and build up small armies that the new lich king cant control. Mostly because he has not fully integrated into the role. So thats why there are small portions of undead and their human "Mothers" and "Fathers" around that on a daily basis reanimate the fallen. And they usually hide their role of a cult member (Which makes sense) so the undead is still there, and its still being built up.

[Aquamonkey]

If we take as rule that new Lich King has to meditate for at least 5 years after coronation, then Bolvar should be awakened approximately on February 2015, which is probably 6.1 or 6.2

And even if Blizzard decides to not touch that untill next addon, it would be dissappointing to have Bolvar asleep for 7+ years.

P.S. I believe so because time in Azeroth follows real time IIRC and Lich King died in February 2010.

What do you think about that? They have created another version in this addon, would it be fitting to have new Northrend in next one?

Mistake in title: Half a year. Not 1 year.

It was under 5 years game time for Arthas. So far it's only been 3 years game time (late 27 at end of ICC to late 30 atm) for Bolvar and he's had a tough time adjusting; he'll probably have to remain dormant for longer than Arthas. Each expansion takes place over the course of a year (except Cata which was 2), so we're still another expansion out at least after WoD if we go by your rule.

[Jawless Jones]

Was Arthas even dormant because he was learning to use his powers?

The vibe I got from Rise of the Lich King was that he was dormant because the last vestiges of his humanity was trying to convince him to stop, and Ner'zhul was persuading him to merge with him and 'kill' his humanity. Nothing about him acclimatising to being the new Lich King.

And why would he? He consumed Ner'zhul and Ner'zhuls memories, meaning he would have had the previous Lich Kings knowledge on how to utilise his power.

[Kolvarg]

Well, first of all I wouldn't think the game events are tied in with real-life time at all. But even assuming there is a relation.

(Im guessing you're mentioning 5 years because that's how long it took from Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne to Wrath of the Lich King?)

There is no reason to assume there is a rule that every Lich King has to meditate 5 years. Simply because lorewise, when Arthas "merged" with the Lich King, a part of his former human (childhood innocence and stuff) still remained. That's why the Lich King was "meditating", or simply, "inactive". 5 years is just the time it took for the Lich King to take over Arthas' last shreds of humanity and therefore become "active" again.

Bolvar could have taken 1 year to give in to the Lich King. Or it can take 10 years, or it may never happen. Bolvar merged with the Lich King in a totally different way than Arthas, so different results are to be expected.

It was already stupid to "require" a Lich King in the first place.

Why do you say that?

From my understanding, a "Lich King" is "required" because THE Lich King is not a physical being of sorts. It's an entity created by the Burning Legion, attatched to the helm, to punish Ner'zhul for pursuing escape from Draenor. If you take what happened in Artha's dream (form the book Rise of the Lich King) literally, then Athas took control. But it was a dream, and in my opinion metaphoric. The very reason we HAD to go "kill" the "Lich King", was because it had taken control and became active. (Yet already in Northrend there are some queues which leads us to believe some part of Ner'zhul still lingers). We killed Arthas. I do NOT believe we destroyed the Lich King, and nothing would have changed if Bolvar didn't put on that crown.

Just like how the scourge was very active before Arthas put the crown on, and then became dormant until Arthas gave in

It sure was not very well explained though, I feel you there. And even if you read all there is to read about it, you might have a different interpretation/opinion, and I respect that ofc.

[Super Kami Dende]

Remember kids, 1 occurrence is not a Pattern.

[Gimlix]

But isn't Warcraft time much faster. Aren't we like 10 years ahead since wotlk or something?

[Imnick]

Honestly I think Arthas just forgot to set his alarm clock and Kel'Thuzad thought he looked too cute lying there to disturb him.

[ItachiZaku]

Sure, I'd love to kill Bolvar again.

[Aquamonkey]

But isn't Warcraft time much faster. Aren't we like 10 years ahead since wotlk or something?

Depends. Time in the RTS was much faster than IRL. All the events of WoW and its expansions up till now have only taken place over 6 years.

[Hecz]

I'm sure Blizzard has plenty of ideas that are a lot more exciting than "Wrath of the New Lich King"

[Wildtree]

In order to be awaken, one has to actually be asleep in the first place......
Bolvar doesn't sleep. He's the lich king now, and controls the scourge.
The story doesn't need any continuation at all. It has a "logic" finishing.

The Lich King was unable to break Bolvar. Despite of supernatural torture and pain, the will of Bolvar could not be broken. The Light protected him from that fate.
His body became almost useless, and definitely useless for worldly manners as a paladin. And yet it's still functional enough to serve it's masters mind.
Arthas lost that connection to the light, long before he was wearing the crown. Bolvar uses the crown to control the scourge, with himself being protected by the light.

Could the story be twisted around and make a 180 degree turn into the opposite direction? Of course, it's at the discretion of the story writers to expand the story.
But in a way, expanding the Lich Kings story to a return of the evil entity, that would probably be the biggest rehash of a content theme so far in the game.
And WoW offers plenty of story to be told, that hasn't been told at all yet in the game.
The game doesn't need a return of the Lich King as a foe.

[Lynneiah]

I'm sure Blizzard has plenty of ideas that are a lot more exciting than "Wrath of the New Lich King"

Yeah, it's not like they're resorting to alternate timelines to recycle old material or something.

Oh wait...