Fox News poll: Jeb Bush 45%, Hillary Clinton 44%

[Yvaelle]

I'm calling it right now: there is NO WAY USA would elect ANY female president for at least another generation.

I'll call that you're wrong right now

[Heladys]

See what I mean? See what I mean?? Not even an afterthought about the actual poll methodology or questions. Just "Fox biased" nonsense, even after I've shown their methodology! Yeah, their news station is borderline propaganda, but this mindless dismissal only makes people look ignorant.

I'm sure Drudge is right once or twice a month but you'd have to be a flaming idiot not to realize he's horribly and unashamedly biased and take every damn thing through that filter.

Or don't you?

[Kujako]

I'm calling it right now: there is NO WAY USA would elect ANY female president for at least another generation.

Just like there was NO WAY we would elect a black guy, or an Irish guy, or a Protestant.

[Masark]

Just like there was NO WAY we would elect a black guy, or an Irish guy, or a Protestant.

You mean Catholic. Protestants have been presidents since the beginning really.

[Jimmy Woods]

Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
A lot of blue collar republicans didn't vote in 2008 or 2012 because McCain is pro amnesty and Romney was also soft on illegal immigration. So the polls were wrong because they didn't take into consideration the massive amount of blue collar republicans that stayed home. This actually started under George bush when he started pushing the idea of amnesty and that turned a lot of republicans off. Its still the number one issue to many republicans and is a litmus test for any potential candidate.
This sounds suspiciously like "so-and-so didn't win because they weren't conservative ENOUGH".

Which might be true for a primary nod, but isn't going to work in the general.

This sounds like a lot of conservatives on social media. Jeb Bush is only leading R's because liberals love him.... Fantasy world, I can't think of 1 liberal that wants to see another Bush president.

Michael Bay is doing a Benghazi movie set to come out just before the election...

From the man who brought the world the pile of shit movie Transformers 4, arguably the worst movie ever made... Not to mention about 20 other sub-par movies (The Rock was awesome, so he has 1 good movie). Of course right-wing media will hype it up and their dumb listeners will go support it, but it comes out in January, it will be forgotten by November. And it doesn't seem to have any political context in the movie.

[Lenonis]

From the man who brought the world the pile of shit movie Transformers 4, arguably the worst movie ever made... Not to mention about 20 other sub-par movies (The Rock was awesome, so he has 1 good movie). Of course right-wing media will hype it up and their dumb listeners will go support it, but it comes out in January, it will be forgotten by November. And it doesn't seem to have any political context in the movie.

Wasn't there some hit movie on Obama before 2012 elections? It didn't seem to really change much.

[Yvaelle]

Wasn't there some hit movie on Obama before 2012 elections? It didn't seem to really change much.

I think that's around when they made a pair of movies about ineffectual black male presidents getting attacked by terrorists, but only the lone Southern Soldier can save him?

I think he resigns in one of them, because he's so embarrassed about how much he sucks. One of them was mildly entertaining at least (as an action movie), the other movie was just GOP fantasy. White House Down and I forget the other one.

[Lenonis]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016:_Obama%27s_America

I think this is what I'm thinking of.

[Yvaelle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016:_Obama%27s_America

I think this is what I'm thinking of.

Oh ya that one too - I didn't even watch it. I'm curious now though.

[Kujako]

Oh ya that one too - I didn't even watch it. I'm curious now though.

And don't forget the Obama like Satan in that "Bible" made for TV movie. Not that I really see much resemblance.

[Lenonis]

And don't forget the Obama like Satan in that "Bible" made for TV movie. Not that I really see much resemblance.

Yeesh. Satan's eyebrows look especially fake.

Also, that's a stretch to claim that is intended to resemble Obama. But you never know.

Which show was it who got into trouble for using the head of Bush on a pole in some scene?

[Kujako]

Yeesh. Satan's eyebrows look especially fake.

Also, that's a stretch to claim that is intended to resemble Obama. But you never know.

Which show was it who got into trouble for using the head of Bush on a pole in some scene?

Quick Google shows it as Game of Thrones. Again, bit of a stretch to say for sure that it was intended...

[Lenonis]

Quick Google shows it as Game of Thrones. Again, bit of a stretch to say for sure that it was intended...

From what I remember I think they had a spare head with a bush molded face and they just grabbed it because they needed more. I think they scrubbed the footage from the DVD release or online streaming or whatnot. Kind of silly all in all if you ask me.

[Ealyssa]

If even Fox news can't make polls more than 1% in favor of the GOP does that mean easy win for the dems ?

[Felya]

From what I remember I think they had a spare head with a bush molded face and they just grabbed it because they needed more. I think they scrubbed the footage from the DVD release or online streaming or whatnot. Kind of silly all in all if you ask me.

That's what I remember from the making of commentary on HBO. They just used what they had at hand and tried to cover it up. I don't think anyone would notice, if they didn't point it out. Then again, 30 Rock hid jokes specifically for those who pause and over analyze each seen. Jack's office in the move to Boston episode they acknowledge it, by saying 7 items changed and challenging viewers to find them.

[Orbitus]

If even Fox news can't make polls more than 1% in favor of the GOP does that mean easy win for the dems ?

Considering how many times they said that Romney would win in a landslide? Yeah pretty much. Then they cry foul like Rove did the night got re-elected in 2012.

[The Penguin]

Any candidate regardless of party that will turn the last eight years of Obama's bills, From ACA, to Sanctuary Cities, to the Amnesty Plan, to the Iraq Deal into glorified toilet paper gets my vote. Simple as that. Ain't voting for Hillary or Bush on principle unless I have to vote for Bush to achieve the above. Putting Bush as the GoP or Clinton as the Democrat, would be a idiot's move. No one wants a Dynastic race.

[Felya]

Considering how many times they said that Romney would win in a landslide? Yeah pretty much. Then they cry foul like Rove did the night got re-elected in 2012.

I don't remember Fox saying landslide, but at least a popular vote win. Even Trump was on the air frothing at Obama losing the popular vote. From stuff I saw recently, they had polls saying 1% lead to Romney, with it being a tie the day off. I think the link was provided to me somewhere in this thread.

[unbound]

That's what I remember from the making of commentary on HBO. They just used what they had at hand and tried to cover it up. I don't think anyone would notice, if they didn't point it out. Then again, 30 Rock hid jokes specifically for those who pause and over analyze each seen. Jack's office in the move to Boston episode they acknowledge it, by saying 7 items changed and challenging viewers to find them.

Yeah, the commentary explained that there are so many body parts associated with the show that they rent them by the thousands. They didn't realize that there was a Bush head on one of the pikes until after it was filmed. It has been modified / erased since then before that season was published on DVD.

[SirRobin]

Whoa, someone is taking anything Fox News says seriously? I think that's bigger news than the poll.