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    Quote Originally Posted by Howling Wind View Post
    My question still stands. At what age does a pedophile become a pedophile? When they are born? 5 years? 10 years? 15 years old? Or when they are legally an adult at 18?
    I don't know, it's a mental state like any others...it's a question you'd have to put up with people researching the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vetinari View Post
    The desire on the part of normals to want to chemically castrate pedophiles has nothing to do with helping them to not have those urges.

    Its so that they never, ever even think about doing anything with a child.

    Some people think chemical castration will do the trick, others prefer a 9mm.
    some one can be a pedophilia all their life and never touch an underage child just like a homosexual can be one all his or her life and never engage in homosexual sex

    being a pedophile is not illegal or maybe not even immoral acting on his or hers pedophiliac urges is what is immoral and illegal

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    Child porn would not exist if pedos did not crave child porn.

    It is not a victimless crime.

    By seeking out child porn you are requiring people to create it.
    False, I can't even begin to explain how wrong that way of thinking is on so many levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howling Wind View Post
    My question still stands. At what age does a pedophile become a pedophile? When they are born? 5 years? 10 years? 15 years old? Or when they are legally an adult at 18?
    That varies actually. And no, you do not need to be 18.

    From the link I posted
    What is a pedophile?

    A pedophile is a person who has a sustained sexual orientation toward children, generally aged 13 or younger, Blanchard says.

    Not all pedophiles are child molesters (or vice versa). "Child molesters are defined by their acts; pedophiles are defined by their desires," Blanchard says. "Some pedophiles refrain from sexually approaching any child for their entire lives." But it's not clear how common that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    some one can be a pedophilia all their life and never touch an underage child just like a homosexual can be one all his or her life and never engage in homosexual sex

    being a pedophile is not illegal or maybe not even immoral acting on his or hers pedophiliac urges is what is immoral and illegal
    If such a person consumes porn it does not matter if he/she does nto touch underage children they create victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarac View Post
    I don't know, it's a mental state like any others...it's a question you'd have to put up with people researching the matter.
    So it's possible to be born a pedophile? Seems paradoxical to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    some one can be a pedophilia all their life and never touch an underage child just like a homosexual can be one all his or her life and never engage in homosexual sex

    being a pedophile is not illegal or maybe not even immoral acting on his or hers pedophiliac urges is what is immoral and illegal
    While I agree, if your going to mention homosexuals mention straight people as well. Or use a different example that isn't aiming at one group. I get what your saying but it's going to trigger a fight here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howling Wind View Post
    So it's possible to be born a pedophile? Seems paradoxical to me.
    It's possible, I don't know. I personally think it is, but that's me thinking and not stating facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasala View Post
    If such a person consumes porn it does not matter if he/she does nto touch underage children they create victims.
    how says all consume child porn? you can be a pedophilia and never look at child porn just like a homosexual can be a homosexual and never look at gay porn or the same with a heterosexual and never look at straight porn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasala View Post
    If such a person consumes porn it does not matter if he/she does nto touch underage children they create victims.
    That's the easy way out, no they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    That's fine.... But evidence was provided that it is in fact a mental disorder.
    Pedophiles cannot help themselves...... Someone having a fetish however can help themselves just fine with a little self control

    As said earlier........ It's possible to call your presence here a fetish too.

    Whereas on the contrary to Pedophilia
    http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/f...ing-pedophilia
    So, it's established for nearly 50 years.
    About time, I would say, the populace learns the difference, so we can finally help these people AND at the same time our children properly.
    So you saying you can't have an over lapping disorder, saying I have a fetish means, I can't also have a mental disorder? You honestly are not teaching me anything I didn't know, or anything I cared to know over my point. I am pretty sure nobody is going to mistake anything I have said here for a medical diagnosis.

    As I said, I don't care if you agree with my opinion, that is fine, which is why I pointed that fact out.

    And yes I do agree with some of what you said too, just not all for why. I think there does need to be more understanding and less hysteria about this, but the problem is, that is ignoring the other people too, who are hysterical for their own reasons also, and that is a reality that has to be contended with to in order to help these people and society as a whole.

    Which is why I shared my opinion the way, I did.
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  11. #571
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarac View Post
    False, I can't even begin to explain how wrong that way of thinking is on so many levels.
    Yea I bet I know why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarac View Post
    That's the easy way out, no they don't.
    So you are ok with people consuming childporn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howling Wind View Post
    So it's possible to be born a pedophile? Seems paradoxical to me.
    Why wouldn't it be possible? Mother nature is a merciless bitch, and some people get the shit end of the genetic/developmental lotto.

    Some people are born with downs, some people are born dwarfs, some people are born with an insatiable urge to kill (read some interviews with serial killers), some people are born with the urge to fuck children, some people are born with the certainty of cancer by the time they are 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mall Security View Post
    So you saying you can't have an over lapping disorder, saying I have a fetish means, I can't also have a mental disorder?
    No I don't. I asked to call it what it is, a mental disorder.
    For the sheer fact, that a fetish is clearly something less severe.
    I never said one is exclusive to the other.

    People are people..... and the population doesn't tend to pay attention properly, when they aren't made aware of a severity.
    That's what my point was, if you know what I mean now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howling Wind View Post
    So it's possible to be born a pedophile? Seems paradoxical to me.

    How is it paradoxical? I dont remember when or why i started liking round butts. The very first time i remember noticing how the female form was attractive was watching a cartoon of all things. I just thought Harley Quinn was kinda sexy, without really even knowing what sexy was. Losing all my innocence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vetinari View Post
    Why wouldn't it be possible? Mother nature is a merciless bitch, and some people get the shit end of the genetic/developmental lotto.

    Some people are born with downs, some people are born dwarfs, some people are born with an insatiable urge to kill (read some interviews with serial killers), some people are born with the urge to fuck children, some people are born with the certainty of cancer by the time they are 30.
    If that's the case then I see no hope for those sick evil bastards. It is a fact all child molesters are pedophiles. Why not just nip the problem in the bud?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    Yea I bet I know why.
    If you got something to say than say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howling Wind View Post
    If that's the case then I see no hope for those sick evil bastards. It is a fact all child molesters are pedophiles. Why not just nip the problem in the bud?
    You can't punish innocent people for something others with a related problem did.

  18. #578
    Quote Originally Posted by vetinari View Post
    Why wouldn't it be possible? Mother nature is a merciless bitch, and some people get the shit end of the genetic/developmental lotto.

    Some people are born with downs, some people are born dwarfs, some people are born with an insatiable urge to kill (read some interviews with serial killers), some people are born with the urge to fuck children, some people are born with the certainty of cancer by the time they are 30.
    there are a hell of a lot more so called pedophiles out there that anyone is willing to admit and even pedophiles them selves would admit they are

    in case you haven't noticed the most popular porn sites are teen porn or at least advertised as teen porn and how many men like their partners to dress up and act like little school girls and play the part and call them daddy

    Im willing to bet there are as many pedophiles them knowing it or not as there are homosexuals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    how says all consume child porn? you can be a pedophilia and never look at child porn just like a homosexual can be a homosexual and never look at gay porn or the same with a heterosexual and never look at straight porn
    that would be what we call an exception, not a rule

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch View Post
    How is it paradoxical? I dont remember when or why i started liking round butts. The very first time i remember noticing how the female form was attractive was watching a cartoon of all things. I just thought Harley Quinn was kinda sexy, without really even knowing what sexy was.
    Babies aren't born sexually aroused by tits and ass or having pedophilic thoughts, unless you got a study that proves otherwise.

    You can technically call a 13 year old a pedophile based on the definition if that 13year old finds the childlike features of his classmates sexually arousing. Yep, a 13 year old pedophile......
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