New leggos screws over WWs again?

[ribthanwa]

That is proof that you don't know what you're talking about considering the rings were only released a few days ago. Check and mate.

Think about it rationally. How much healing does Soom do? How often can you cast EVM (even with lifecycles)? Giving us that, it's really insignificant of a overall healing%

[Tiphess]

That is proof that you don't know what you're talking about considering the rings were only released a few days ago. Check and mate.

Oh boy...

Enjoy being objectively worse than everyone else with your ring ?

You're not even saying why that ring would provide any significant healing increase.

Is there something you don't get when people are saying "If it was FT, the ring would be average at best" ?

[Saverem]

Think about it rationally. How much healing does Soom do? How often can you cast EVM (even with lifecycles)? Giving us that, it's really insignificant of a overall healing%

You have a 7.2 mentality when you should be thinking about it with a 7.2.5 and ToS mentality. In ToS the set bonus will have us casting EM frequently and you also have to think about not getting Mist Wrap with the ring, but instead getting Lifecycles (or SotC) since we'll be running Mist Wrap with or without that ring. Ring will keep our EM buffing the spells by 40% and SM usable while moving on top of having 20% cheaper Vivs/EM with Lifecycles further reducing our mana issues.

Only thing I wish they'd do is also have Surge reduce cast time of EM, then it would be perfect.

[Tiphess]

The set's 2p does not have a high enough ppm to make the ring viable, even with a high ppm it wouldn't be. (the highest was roughly 3 ppm on the first iteration of the set)

There's also the 4p that's just plain worse than the previous one.

Again, if this set remain as it is, we won't use it.

[brt2pp]

You have a 7.2 mentality when you should be thinking about it with a 7.2.5 and ToS mentality. In ToS the set bonus will have us casting EM frequently and you also have to think about not getting Mist Wrap with the ring, but instead getting Lifecycles (or SotC) since we'll be running Mist Wrap with or without that ring. Ring will keep our EM buffing the spells by 40% and SM usable while moving on top of having 20% cheaper Vivs/EM with Lifecycles further reducing our mana issues.

Only thing I wish they'd do is also have Surge reduce cast time of EM, then it would be perfect.

ow boy, you have no idea what you are talking about, currently this "awesome" proc procs once a minute, twice if you press ef on cd wich you shouldn't be doing, not to mention even when we use it em is just shitty spell that does almost pure overhealing in raids, and blizz have done nothing to adress flat out terrible design of this spell, for raids the only real benefit of that ring is that you will be able to cast sm while moving and some people likes that, go to talent for tomb is lifecycles anyway, all that this ring does is give us pointless talent, that will not benefit your healign in the slightest, the least they could do is make em change target like Rem when it overheals , and even then overhealing still would be atrocious, and not worth casting it, sorry to say but currently if you are casting EM in raid you are just bad MW, and nothing seems to indicate that this will change much in tomb, even garg sayed that this ring is pointless and not worth considering for raids

[Saverem]

ow boy, you have no idea what you are talking about, currently this "awesome" proc procs once a minute,

Currently this awesome proc is still in PTR and subject to change. Didn't bother reading the rest.

[Divinexve]

ww will always be the 'we forgot about you guys' dps spec

[scrappybristol]

yeah really surprised yall are getting one of the worst talents i've ever seen for the ring.

figured it'd at least be chi burst or chi wave since all yalls specs get those.

[Deleted]

wtf are you on if you think lifecycles or spirit of the crane is even more than 1% healing increase, seriously man, you're clueless

[chickopenny]

Really wish we we're getting Hit Combo instead of Chi Orbit. Even Ascension, Power Strikes or Eye of the Tiger would be better lol, I just hate the animation of chi orbit so much

[Inari]

There's a few things you're missing with the math.

Chi Orbit is affected by Hit Combo (16% right now, 12% on PTR), but not affected by the Hidden WW Aura (8% right now, 19% on the PTR).
Chi Orbit is also not affected by Mastery.

CJL is affected by Hit Combo, Mastery, and the hidden aura.

They probably need to make Chi Orbit scale with both Mastery and the WW aura and it would do okay.

Thanks for the clarification!

[Juliansfist]

ww will always be the 'we forgot about you guys' dps spec

But if you're doing well we will take notice and nerf you in due course.

Lest We Forget

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they nerfed the lvl 90 line...
so i assumed we get hit combo...
gj blizz. thats said as you wanted to "give talents that should have been there since release as a passiv spell"

retarded idiots.

[Oziemaster]

But if you're doing well we will take notice and nerf you in due course.

Lest We Forget

Gotta nerf the WW legendaries so they don't catch up to the Frost Mage's for once. Can't have that.

[brt2pp]

Currently this awesome proc is still in PTR and subject to change. Didn't bother reading the rest.

sad, maybe you would learn something about spec that you seem to play and the tldr is, EM is shitty spell for raids baseline, making it so we heal more person affected by it that is in all likelihood already on 100% hp is pointless, all that this new tier is doing is making us cast spell that don't do any healing, EM doesn't heal in raids, it overheals and that shows in every possible log, from LFR to mythic ergo, making us cast more EM doesn't increase value of mist wrap talent, simply because of how this talent works, it increase healing on a person affected by EM, and if you cast on someone EM he is already at full health 2 sec later

[Nyel]

I agree that the new T20 bonus for MW is pretty awful. The last bonus was okay even though EnM is still a No Go in raids (maybe except Mythic) even when it's literally a free heal. It's still bad design to invest 20k Mana for 70-80% overhealing. If we had a talent that would reduce EnM duration by 50% and healing by 20% or something like that it would be okay or making it some kind of instant healing with the added healing bonus at a 6 second duration with a 8sec CD.

[Saverem]

sad, maybe you would learn something about spec that you seem to play and the tldr is, EM is shitty spell for raids baseline, making it so we heal more person affected by it that is in all likelihood already on 100% hp is pointless, all that this new tier is doing is making us cast spell that don't do any healing, EM doesn't heal in raids, it overheals and that shows in every possible log, from LFR to mythic ergo, making us cast more EM doesn't increase value of mist wrap talent, simply because of how this talent works, it increase healing on a person affected by EM, and if you cast on someone EM he is already at full health 2 sec later

The sad part is that you think people will waste time reading that wall of text. Look up what period is for on the dictionary.

[Deleted]

I was actually hoping for Ascension seeing that all talents were passive ones (it would come really good with EE also) but seems like nope, Chi Orbit is pure shit and some other specs are getting insane talents in the ring while we get Chi Orbit (you will pull mobs with paralysis/polymorph and other mobs CC'd)

=(