Upcoming Shards of Domination Set Bonus Buffs, Spit Emote Removed on TBC Classic PTR

Originally Posted by Ivarr

It's indeed the motive that makes this whole move so cynical. It's not a response to general toxicity, it's response to shield their more lucrative customers and ensure their micro transaction products remain valuable.

Almost makes me want to see this whole thing go full Streisand Effect and see a general outpouring against players displaying store bought items. Not because the players deserve it, but merely to begrudge Blizzard their cynical cash grabbing.

Which motive is that? The one some rando on an internet fansite decided for blizzard while doing something so similar to what blizzard is doing it isn't even funny?

This is the beginning of the end. Have fun with your turbo wokeshit

Originally Posted by Mardux

Which motive is that? The one some rando on an internet fansite decided for blizzard while doing something so similar to what blizzard is doing it isn't even funny?

I struggle at parsing your sentence. But I'll just use this opportunity to reiterate my point:

Blizzard doesn't care about toxicity unless it affects their cash shop sales.

Just replace it with /pick

Originally Posted by Ivarr

Blizzard doesn't care about toxicity unless it affects their cash shop sales.

Based on... what?

Besides your imagination ofcourse.

Originally Posted by VoidSeeker199X

This is the beginning of the end. Have fun with your turbo wokeshit

It's been the beginning of the end ever since BFA with fattie race and every leader being female and ever male leader being a mean bastard ripe for replacement of a kind and caring female. This is RPG in the west currently. In 50 years these years will look like the second dark ages with digital witch burnings and crusades.

Blizzard seems disconnected from reality.

Something is going wrong at the company internally and they have the audacity to attack the players for being abusive.

Seems they don't have mirrors at Blizzard HQ. It's always someone elses fault.

Originally Posted by Sanguinerd

Based on... what?

Besides your imagination ofcourse.

Because /rude, /insult, /fart, /pick and others are still in the game because they aren't, currently, being used to 'offend' people in-game.

It's funny we can kill people, loot corpses, skin animals, burn houses and crops, not to mention straight up genocide in various quests and activities but spitting is across the line.

They are smart though, now the community will splinter and fight amongst themselves over something stupid so that their rape culture can be forgotten.

Originally Posted by Sanguinerd

Based on... what?

Besides your imagination ofcourse.

Besides me imagination there's also the observation that Blizzard pushing the boundaries of wat players consider acceptable by introducing purchasable products into The Burning Crusade that never existed in the original version. Blizzard knew this was going to be contentious, after all, they went out of their way to make sure Classic was authentica as they could manage. In a game with hundreds of exotic mounts this seems trivial, but in a game that only has a limited scala of mounts, that one extra premium mount, with a higher poly count and texture quality than the rest of the assets in the game sticks out like a sore thumb.

Blizzard was testing the waters, taunting the players just to see if the players were able to swallow it. Their bluff got called and now management is lashing back at all this insolence through ham fisted censorship.

Remove the sell-run business as far as possible , wether for gold or cash. And that’s that. I‘ve been playing this game since the Vanilla Beta days and things got worse everytime „the loosend the reigns“. Another factor was probably those group finder tools and the anonymity that came with them. Yes, in the short run it fills their pockets, but in the long run they‘ll lose a lot of long term subscribers. When the toxic crowd moves on to their next FOTM-Game… at a certain point there is Nobody left. Bobby Kotick and the Gang think in quarters, in a Game designed for decades…

Originally Posted by Yizu

Just replace it with /pick

I would replace it with 'hug'. Just give all the players with store mounts a nice good hug, because clearly they need one.

Originally Posted by Nnyco

If you consider rallying people to mass harass others because they are using a mount is not toxic then YOU should go off the internet, go outside and learn some empathy.

In an online computer game somebody doing an emote to your character about a mount...."harassing"... Jesus...the word "snowflake" is not even close to describe who get offended by this....Seriously..get a life..

Do people not realize it's just a game and it isn't real?

Imagine being upset you cant /spit on someone because they spent $$ on a game...lol.

Originally Posted by cateran100

In an online computer game somebody doing an emote to your character about a mount...."harassing"... Jesus...the word "snowflake" is not even close to describe who get offended by this....Seriously..get a life..

Ah its a game, so its okay to be an absolute douchebag. Got it.

Originally Posted by Trbn

was spit emote really a problem?

Obviously yes. Just because you, me, or others can just ignore it doesn't mean others aren't effected by it. It's an easy fix.

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Originally Posted by Zalraki

Awww, all the special snowflakes who bought the mount to be noticed... aren't happy that people are not worshipping them. This must have crushed their self esteem so much that they complained to daddy Blizzard to remove all the bad people from their positive reinforcement bubble

Not really the case but continue to defend trash human behaviour.

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Originally Posted by Deneios

Well if blizz wants a non toxic game they should implement a system that rewards players for being supportive to one another. Lets say big reward is at 100 000 good player points and smaller rewards in between.

Harder to do than removing the ability to target an emote.

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Originally Posted by Sanguinerd

Based on... what?

Besides your imagination ofcourse.

Ding, ding ding.

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Originally Posted by SmokesTooMuch

Imagine being upset you cant /spit on someone because they spent $$ on a game...lol.

Imagine not understanding everyone is different and that different things effect us all differently I'm sure something that upsets you could be considered weak by other people.

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Originally Posted by Nnyco

Ah its a game, so its okay to be an absolute douchebag. Got it.

Yup. Thus thread is highlighting the toxic players.

Originally Posted by Beefhammer

Obviously yes. Just because you, me, or others can just ignore it doesn't mean others aren't effected by it. It's an easy fix.

What exactly was the problem?

Originally Posted by Nerovar

What exactly was the problem?

Non existent if you are a human that can walk out of the house and function socially.

Originally Posted by meowfurion

Do people not realize it's just a game and it isn't real?

Got tell the devs lol

Originally Posted by Biomega

Because the parameters are different. You're not ACTUALLY killing anyone - they come back to life immediately, no harm done. But the emotional damage done by toxic behaviors has real and lasting consequences. Characters dying in-game does not.

This isn't about what's being done to CHARACTERS, it's about what's being done to PLAYERS.

/spit is also being done to a character and not the player. It also does not kill the character. Doesn't even slow the character down.

The "toxic" behavior in the game typically seems to revolve around elitism and the "have vs the have nots". Has nothing to do with emotes or /<whatevr>. People may also need to recognize when they are not able to separate themselves from their character in game and learn when to step away and take a breather.

Seems to me if they want to reduce toxic behavior they would need to remove players ability (in game and on other sites) from viewing other players in any way. Can't look at gear. Remove gear score. Can't look at talents. Block any and all outside sites and sources from accessing game data. Etc. Gamers would also need to revert to a mindset where a 2 hour dungeon run (exaggerated example) is not such a big deal and not expect everyone who plays the game to spend weeks studying before playing.

Devil is always in the details and I'm likely not hitting the nail right on the head here. I just think they have the wrong idea about how to mitigate the issue at hand.