Shadowlands Week 2 - What to Do

Originally Posted by huldu

Man I miss the simple days of just logging on and having fun. Just looking on that list of a bunch of "chores" you feel you have to do for <insert reasons here>. For some there might be a few enjoyable things in that list. I am not judging. Just imagine in your guild(assuming you're progressing) if you were to just take a break or something. Good luck with that. Someone above summed it up nicely with these being more or less mandatory "tasks" to do. Then you have people justifying it, just straight out hilarious. It's a game and this is what you get when you let a company tell you what *fun* is. Enjoy.

This is just the nature of the game and the (subscription based) MMORPG genre. It's a core element of such games to keep you busy over weeks and months to keep paying. Everything needs to take longer and needs to be repetitive in a way. In such games you long time "work" on your character. But if that is not your cup of tea (anymore), mine isn't as well. Just look around there are other kinds of games that provide this "I just want to hop in and have some fun" feeling you want. WoW is way beyond its pinnacle already, it became a game left for the people who are still truly into it. It's fine to move on, i did as well. I am still around on MMO-Champ because i am still kinda interested in the direction the game takes and how well it fares in general, but i am just out of playing it.

Originally Posted by kamuimac

but you will be permanently behind in expansion that was said that it wont be a problem on alts

meaning blizzard lied - and it was bs about this being alt friendly expansion

you will never catch up with people who started on week 1

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at least you know why people rushed so much to get 3-4 alts on week one

now you will be permanently behind and most likely denied joinging good pugs because of it.

You're jumping the gun quite a bit. Just because the catch up mechanics aren't in for renown/souls/anima/dust doesn't mean there aren't going to be any.

And I don't get how some of you couldn't get the anima. 250 from the pvp weekly, 175 from each dungeon weekly, first dungeon and heroic of the day are 35 each, most quests are 2-4 of the 35 items (I haven't seen a single one not give at least 2). I'm getting that quest done in a day or two. Anima is easy to get, but hard to farm, and i like it.

Also, what a contradiction, some saying there's nothing to do. Now a bunch of people saying there's too much they have to do.

Originally Posted by Strawberry

1000 weekly Anima quest is too much work.

I have gotten about 250 in the first week. I don't feel like doing world quests for 35 Anima/each. 35 Anima should be a bonus reward together with some gear parts, not the reward itself!

It's turning into a fucking Korean grind game.
This is why I prefer SWTOR.

Not a single daily gives less than 70 anima. And the longer ones give 140. This is the most casual friendly weekly grind so far.

You should've gotten enough anima just by doing your daily covenant quests and the weeklies.

Originally Posted by Ragnarohk

Crafting legendaries week 2 feels wrong. Not only are they targeted legendaries, but the first raid hasn't even been released.

For some people it's better to wait until raids are out to get the memories they prefer for their legendary. Like I plan on waiting for Sun kings blessing for my mage to craft anything.

Originally Posted by Strawberry

1000 weekly Anima quest is too much work.

I have gotten about 250 in the first week. I don't feel like doing world quests for 35 Anima/each. 35 Anima should be a bonus reward together with some gear parts, not the reward itself!

It's turning into a fucking Korean grind game.
This is why I prefer SWTOR.

You get more than 100 anima per average anima-daily. If you can't afford to do 10 daily quests that take 5 minutes a week, that's completely on you. xD

Originally Posted by Boddhi

This is just the nature of the game and the (subscription based) MMORPG genre. It's a core element of such games to keep you busy over weeks and months to keep paying. Everything needs to take longer and needs to be repetitive in a way. In such games you long time "work" on your character. But if that is not your cup of tea (anymore), mine isn't as well. Just look around there are other kinds of games that provide this "I just want to hop in and have some fun" feeling you want. WoW is way beyond its pinnacle already, it became a game left for the people who are still truly into it. It's fine to move on, i did as well. I am still around on MMO-Champ because i am still kinda interested in the direction the game takes and how well it fares in general, but i am just out of playing it.

Are you me? I'm unsubbed since 1.5 years and yet I keep reading MMOChampion and /r/wow on Reddit. Nostalgia, feelings, etc. I was very intrigued by Shadowlands but I am well aware that 2-3 weeks into it I would feel like the famous hamster in the famous wheel, once again. While it's true that WoW has no real competitors, my free time isn't infinite and I want to use it when I want, not when Blizzard wants.

On a side note, if there was some "pay as you play" plan I would consider it. Having 30 prepaid days is a waste, when you have a real life, kids, a job, etc.

Originally Posted by Strawberry

But I like the armor from my covenant.

If you're extremely inactive and/or going out of your way to not get 1000 anima in a week, since you get it from basically anything, the only other way to get renown ranks is getting your weekly souls from the Maw. Only doing that is slower, but eventually you'll get there.

If you don't even want to do that, then I'm sorry but you're not getting any rewards from just logging in each day.

Originally Posted by MrLoque

Are you me? I'm unsubbed since 1.5 years and yet I keep reading MMOChampion and /r/wow on Reddit. Nostalgia, feelings, etc. I was very intrigued by Shadowlands but I am well aware that 2-3 weeks into it I would feel like the famous hamster in the famous wheel, once again. While it's true that WoW has no real competitors, my free time isn't infinite and I want to use it when I want, not when Blizzard wants.

On a side note, if there was some "pay as you play" plan I would consider it. Having 30 prepaid days is a waste, when you have a real life, kids, a job, etc.

I think for people like you, it's best to unsub and resub every other (or two?) month, that should give you plenty of content that's unlocked. And here's the good thing about Shadowlands; almost nothing that you can unlock ties into your character's power. The few things that do, like the Legendary item, are very easy to make and somewhat catch-up with.

Originally Posted by Ragnarohk

Crafting legendaries week 2 feels wrong. Not only are they targeted legendaries, but the first raid hasn't even been released.

Think of it as the artifact weapon or heart of Azeroth of SL. It is a single strong item you get really early in the xpac but needs to be upgraded over the coming weeks.

Originally Posted by Strawberry

1000 weekly Anima quest is too much work

There was 900 anima in world quests up yesterday afternoon. Took roughly 30 minutes of effort to get it.

You may just be lazy tbh.

Man I just hit lvl 60 lol

Originally Posted by Ragnarohk

Crafting legendaries week 2 feels wrong. Not only are they targeted legendaries, but the first raid hasn't even been released.

You will have to ugprade your legendary's item level so I wouldn't worry too much about "Creating" the legendary. It will only be item level 190 at rank 1. That is just step 1.

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Originally Posted by huldu

Man I miss the simple days of just logging on and having fun. Just looking on that list of a bunch of "chores" you feel you have to do for <insert reasons here>. For some there might be a few enjoyable things in that list. I am not judging. Just imagine in your guild(assuming you're progressing) if you were to just take a break or something. Good luck with that. Someone above summed it up nicely with these being more or less mandatory "tasks" to do. Then you have people justifying it, just straight out hilarious. It's a game and this is what you get when you let a company tell you what *fun* is. Enjoy.

I miss the days I had to do raids for pve gear and bgs-arenas for pvp gear . Its not fun to me anymore . I want to do BGs for fun and I'm thinking I have to do first this this this for be stronger.

Originally Posted by Gref

too much stuff. my daily 1~2 hours of play cannot keep up with this. at the weekend I might go longer but welp, I guess my 16 years of wow career must come to a bitter end. I love hc-mythic raiding and m15+ but I do not think I can keep up with legendary crafting, upgrades, conduit upgrades, renown upgrades.

You do realise some people want more to do than 2hr worth right?

You have the option of not doing it if you choose to play so little. No need to wish for others to suffer just for you

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Originally Posted by Tarx

I miss the days I had to do raids for pve gear and bgs-arenas for pvp gear . Its not fun to me anymore . I want to do BGs for fun and I'm thinking I have to do first this this this for be stronger.

News flash pvp always required gear. Unless you found getting 2 shot fun

Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos

You do realise some people want more to do than 2hr worth right?

You have the option of not doing it if you choose to play so little. No need to wish for others to suffer just for you

no need to be aggressive, ffs. where in my post I stated i want others to suffer, cut the content? please show it. I just said, it is too much for me.
All these years I have always gotten aotc within the first month of a raid release, +15 on all dungeons, and 3-5 bosses down on mythic. I am not asking for cutting content. I am accepting the fact that I cannot keep up with this all as an adult. I am a little bit sad but sure, I do not have time.This game means a lot to me but this is the reality for me. I cannot play that much.

I am just saying again, too much stuff for me. I really really cannot be arsed to do all those anima world quess *I have hardly ever done wqs*, horrendous maw walking from start to other side and with a 15min cd on that teleport thingy.

lmao ffs, cant say shit these days without getting any negative insults. Must be nice to talk bossing over people on internet showing your superiorty.

Originally Posted by Gref

no need to be aggressive, ffs. where in my post I stated i want others to suffer, cut the content? please show it. I just said, it is too much for me.
All these years I have always gotten aotc within the first month of a raid release, +15 on all dungeons, and 3-5 bosses down on mythic. I am not asking for cutting content. I am accepting the fact that I cannot keep up with this all as an adult. I am a little bit sad but sure, I do not have time.This game means a lot to me but this is the reality for me. I cannot play that much.

I am just saying again, too much stuff for me. I really really cannot be arsed to do all those anima world quess *I have hardly ever done wqs*, horrendous maw walking from start to other side and with a 15min cd on that teleport thingy.

lmao ffs, cant say shit these days without getting any negative insults. Must be nice to talk bossing over people on internet showing your superiorty.

Seems insane to me to complain there's to much to do in a game you barely even play. Like come on. Think.

Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos

Seems insane to me to complain there's to much to do in a game you barely even play. Like come on. Think.

I am saying, my gaming habits did not change a single bit between bfa and sl. but I cannot keep up with this atm. I will try of course. but I wonder.I do not ask for a change, I do not ask for cut. I just say, so far, it seems too much for me. It will change over the course of time of course as I will slowly catch up but atm too much for me.

I wish there was a list for people to enjoy the game, instead a list that people use to justify other people as being morons or not.

Originally Posted by prwraith

There was 900 anima in world quests up yesterday afternoon. Took roughly 30 minutes of effort to get it.

You may just be lazy tbh.

30min to finish WQs in 4 zones?
You're lying.

Originally Posted by Gref

no need to be aggressive, ffs. where in my post I stated i want others to suffer, cut the content? please show it. I just said, it is too much for me.
All these years I have always gotten aotc within the first month of a raid release, +15 on all dungeons, and 3-5 bosses down on mythic. I am not asking for cutting content. I am accepting the fact that I cannot keep up with this all as an adult. I am a little bit sad but sure, I do not have time.This game means a lot to me but this is the reality for me. I cannot play that much.

You are saying, that with your average of 1,5 Hours/Day, which results in 10Hours/Week, you cannot handle 1H/Week for Torghast, and 1-2H/Week für 1000 Anima?

Because from my calculation that still leaves around 7Hours for other stuff. Oo.

Originally Posted by Gref

I am just saying again, too much stuff for me. I really really cannot be arsed to do all those anima world quess *I have hardly ever done wqs*

Then dont do it. If you dont want/can collect 1000 Anima, (From which you get 350 for 2 Dungeons). Then dont do it, and stay 1-2 Weeks behind on your Covenant, and catch up with Extra Renown Drops from other Activities.

Originally Posted by Gref

horrendous maw walking from start to other side and with a 15min cd on that teleport thingy.

Again, dont do it if you dont want to. I dont see the problem if you are behind the others in a bit Reputation. You also get 2-3 Weekly Quests from Venari, which not even take alot of time each.

Originally Posted by Gref

lmao ffs, cant say shit these days without getting any negative insults. Must be nice to talk bossing over people on internet showing your superiorty.

You would get maybe a better response if you would not Cry over literally nothing and think a bit.

If People can do their Weekly stuff in half a day, it should be Possible to do that in a week.

Furthermore, this is a list of stuff you can do, not a list you have to do. This is not a hard concept. If someone doesnt have the time to play at the cutting edge, there is no reason to think much about it. Its entirely a Persons problem if he feels "He has to much to do". Because, its not even remotely much to do.

Originally Posted by Gref

I am saying, my gaming habits did not change a single bit between bfa and sl. but I cannot keep up with this atm. I will try of course. but I wonder.I do not ask for a change, I do not ask for cut. I just say, so far, it seems too much for me. It will change over the course of time of course as I will slowly catch up but atm too much for me.

All the various things available right now have almost no impact your characters power, apart from soul-ash for your legendary. You can get this soul-ash in an hour or less from Thorghast, that is if you're not lying about the level that you play at. Everything else is optional and can be done at your own speed.

If you played BFA, then you should realize that there is a whole lot less mandatory stuff needed to be done this expansion compared to it. The mandatory azerite level farming was more work, same with the essences, benthic gear and the corruption gear farming. So if you're still complaining after realizing that, it's because you WANT to do everything in combination with Mythic raiding, and not because you MUST do everything for Mythic raiding.