USA falling apart?

[belfpala]

May wanna get your information from a more reliable source. They are the most successful state in the country.

By what measure?

[Rukentuts]

Ummm, Texas has one of the best economies in the US right now with some of the lowest unemployment.

Unemployment doesn't speak much when the jobs are so low-paying.

[chadwix]

Congress passes the budget, not Obama.

There hasnt been a budget since obama was elected 4 years ago. One of this countries problems

Unemployment doesn't speak much when the jobs are so low-paying.

Are you familiar with minimum wage? Its the same in all the states

[Rukentuts]

Are you familiar with minimum wage? Its the same in all the states

Are you aware that there actually are employers that pay more than the minimum wage?

[chadwix]

Are you aware that there actually are employers that pay more than the minimum wage?

Are you aware texas has no state income tax and sales tax isnt bad? Thats at least a 25% difference vs cali/new york/other liberal states. The cost of living is also much less.

You cant really bash texas without proving you dont know what your talking about. They are doing it right.

[SirRobin]

Reeve if ya'all bail on the union I have a room you can rent up here in North Jersey, don't worry. All I ask is you bring some food from a Timmy Chans or Taqueriea Cancune .. Kay? LOL :P

No Taco Cabana?

[Rukentuts]

Are you aware texas has no state income tax and sales tax isnt bad?

And yet they still manage to have a lower GDP per capita than the national average.

[belfpala]

Are you familiar with minimum wage? Its the same in all the states

No, it isn't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._minimum_wages

And you didn't answer my question above.

[Rukentuts]

You cant really bash texas without proving you dont know what your talking about. They are doing it right.

Yes, because you're the one that has been linking sources in this thread, not me.

No, it isn't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._minimum_wages

And you didn't answer my question above.

Hm, learn something new every day.

[kichigaijin]

By the end of his 2nd term, the country will be in debt somewhere between 40~50 trillion and unemployment will still be hovering around 10%. Dems will be lucky to see another presidency in 12~16 years after that.

[Kasierith]

Incorrect, it is legal if an amendment is passed allowing it. The American Civil War was not done legally. 11 states chose secession, while 25 states supported "the Union". "To preserve itself and its people", the Union forces and US Government fought to keep itself united. Had the northern states also voted on an amendment to support the South to secede, it would've been legal.

But is an amendment not a drastic change to the current legal system? Ie, you could say that murder is legal, because if the majority of states decided to make an amendment saying so it would be legal.

[Reeve]

Are you aware texas has no state income tax and sales tax isnt bad? Thats at least a 25% difference vs cali/new york/other liberal states. The cost of living is also much less.

You cant really bash texas without proving you dont know what your talking about. They are doing it right.

Texas also has relatively high property taxes and a proliferation of toll roads. I pay ~$30/month in taxes to Texas through the Toll Roads. A little more than that, really.

[SirRobin]

A balanced budget is a balanced budget, are you debating this or just ranting?

I would hardly brag about having a balanced budget when they've had to take federal money, or resort to gimmicks, to do it.

[Rukentuts]

Texas also has relatively high property taxes and a proliferation of toll roads.

They also inflated their estimates of rising property values to estimate higher revenue levels from those taxes so the budget would be "balanced".

[chadwix]

Hm, learn something new every day.

The federal minimum wage vs state min wage is confusing. There is still a national min wage, i think its 5.15, i could be wrong.

[Reeve]

By the end of his 2nd term, the country will be in debt somewhere between 40~50 trillion and unemployment will still be hovering around 10%. Dems will be lucky to see another presidency in 12~16 years after that.

In order for the debt to go up to $40 trillion by the end of Obama's second term, the deficit would need to go up to $6 trillion. That's an absolutely absurd statement to make.

Also, the unemployment rate is 7.9% right now. It won't be 10% in 2016 barring a new economic catastrophe.

[Rukentuts]

The federal minimum wage vs state min wage is confusing. There is still a national min wage, i think its 5.15, i could be wrong.

It was raised to $7.25 effective in 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Mi...ge_Act_of_2007

[belfpala]

The federal minimum wage vs state min wage is confusing. There is still a national min wage, i think its 5.15, i could be wrong.

$7.25, with some exceptions. http://www.dol.gov/whd/minimumwage.htm . States can go above that if they choose. I don't see how that matters, though. Even McDonalds or OfficeMax where I am pay more than that.

[Poinen]

Borrowing money from schools isn't maintaining a balanced budget.

Oh well, can't be as bad an idea as our Primeminister in Denmark.... borrowing peoples retirement funds to balance the budget.

[chadwix]

It was raised to $7.25 effective in 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Mi...ge_Act_of_2007

See this is confusing, there are states still paying under $6. Ill say "the min wage" is the lowest in the country, my personal interpretation.

Either way, the list belf posted shows texas at 7.25 while cali is 8. 7.25 in texas is a lot more than 8 in cali.