Authors I have enjoyed enough to mention here: JRR Tolkein, Poul Anderson,Jack Vance, Gene Wolfe, Glen Cook, Brian Stableford, MAR Barker, Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, WM Hodgson, Fredrick Brown, Robert SheckleyJohn Steakley, Joe Abercrombie, Robert Silverberg, the norse sagas, CJ Cherryh, PG Wodehouse, Clark Ashton Smith, Alastair Reynolds, Cordwainer Smith, LE Modesitt, L. Sprague de Camp & Fletcher Pratt, Stephen R Donaldon, and Jack L Chalker.
I've told this story before. We were in a race for server first Kil'Jaeden, our guild had no legendary drops, other guild had one offhand that went to their second-best rogue because the best wasn't on that night. We're both working on Mu'ru the cockblock of the century. In six weeks a guild that was firmly in 5th place got 3 mainhands, 3 offhands, blasted through and beat us to it.
Welfare legendaries indeed.
A lot of that wasn't hard either...some of it was tedious tho.
Stating you 3 shot some end boss doesn't translate into a world first kind of guild. Only that he had 3 attempts before downing. With no other information that is all you can conclude from his statement. If you want to speculate...there are several scenarios that easily explain it that do not involve world first guild =P
I think a lot of you casuals are just butthurt that you finally get an easy to acquire orange and are upset that the item is so common that it doesn't garner the least bit of attention or respect for your efforts, despite how feverishly you argue that you "have a legendary." People are just pointing out to you all that the orange-text piece of gear you have is just a meaningless piece of everyday, commonplace gear, regardless of the color text is has. Aside from it's stats, there's nothing even remotely special about that cloak, at all. It's no different then you farming a piece of gear from a 5 man, really, no matter how much you say otherwise.
It's not actually. The legendary is intended for people who sucked too much before to get their hands on one. Even though it was apparently just as easy to do so.This item is intended for people without this poisonous attitude, people who actually put in an effort and want a legendary so their effort pays off better.
People with "your attitude" might as well quit the game.
Hello Kangodo!
Just for argument purposes, we could compare and contrast
Mindlessly clearing naxx40 in classic - how many people actually did this mindlessly? if it was mindless, why didn't more?
mindlessly clear BT in bc - was it mindless pre-2.4? just getting to bt implied some mind, as it is widely claimed kael and vashj were not mindless fights (but see my -everyone was carried- argument further back? you I know will get the sarcasm).
Mindlessly clear SWP pre-30% nerf.
and compare to mindlessly running LFR in panda?
And mindlessly running normal in panda?
is the prior set comparable mindlessness to either of the latter two?
Authors I have enjoyed enough to mention here: JRR Tolkein, Poul Anderson,Jack Vance, Gene Wolfe, Glen Cook, Brian Stableford, MAR Barker, Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, WM Hodgson, Fredrick Brown, Robert SheckleyJohn Steakley, Joe Abercrombie, Robert Silverberg, the norse sagas, CJ Cherryh, PG Wodehouse, Clark Ashton Smith, Alastair Reynolds, Cordwainer Smith, LE Modesitt, L. Sprague de Camp & Fletcher Pratt, Stephen R Donaldon, and Jack L Chalker.
Oh composing my own strategy. So you never read strats, watch videos, or have anyone in the raid who does? You come up with your own strats, wow good for you. I guess you're legendary. The millions of us are just scrubs because we watch boss strats.
And no getting to illidan wasn't a cake walk, or didn't you understand that when i said we had difficulty (like everybody else) with vashj and KT. And getting to illidan entails clearing BT, which i stated. And whether you believe me or not doesn't matter.
And disingenuous? You make statements about strats and call people liars and i'm disingenuous. wow.
No the item is for anyone. If you have the means to complete it you should. Unlike previous legendaries that depended on others allowing you the chance to complete it/roll on it. This change is good for the individual but bad for guilds, as it removed a mechanism to reward loyalty/performance.
Authors I have enjoyed enough to mention here: JRR Tolkein, Poul Anderson,Jack Vance, Gene Wolfe, Glen Cook, Brian Stableford, MAR Barker, Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, WM Hodgson, Fredrick Brown, Robert SheckleyJohn Steakley, Joe Abercrombie, Robert Silverberg, the norse sagas, CJ Cherryh, PG Wodehouse, Clark Ashton Smith, Alastair Reynolds, Cordwainer Smith, LE Modesitt, L. Sprague de Camp & Fletcher Pratt, Stephen R Donaldon, and Jack L Chalker.
but this fits with the definition of legendary at that time - the accomplishment was killing illidan when bt was top tier. the glaives were exception, nearly-unique items with a very low drop rate which were intended to be very special items that you MIGHT see if you raided the expansion extensively. At a more subtle level, they may have been intended to provide that extra carrot to some players, though the class limitations they had might argue against this. nonetheless, I think having goals, no matter how unlikely they are to be obtained, is a big psychological part of motivation.
A better 'goal' comparison will be deathcharger - how many folks have solo'd strath or earlier ran stratholme hoping to see what was at one point the single rarest drop in the game?
Authors I have enjoyed enough to mention here: JRR Tolkein, Poul Anderson,Jack Vance, Gene Wolfe, Glen Cook, Brian Stableford, MAR Barker, Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, WM Hodgson, Fredrick Brown, Robert SheckleyJohn Steakley, Joe Abercrombie, Robert Silverberg, the norse sagas, CJ Cherryh, PG Wodehouse, Clark Ashton Smith, Alastair Reynolds, Cordwainer Smith, LE Modesitt, L. Sprague de Camp & Fletcher Pratt, Stephen R Donaldon, and Jack L Chalker.
Well for me I would say yes =P, except I never cleared sunwell. Guild dramas...exploded lost 15 core members and didn't recover in time to clear it. Got a few bosses in before wrath.
I can mindlessly push buttons just as well in heroic as LFR =P Nothing in WoW has really required much thought...just awareness and reaction time. So yes pretty much every raid has been as mindless as LFR =P