All of the Tea Party hate from the establishment...

[belfpala]

I'm more of a drudge guy, I still try and research what they say because I've found a few things wrong. I'm serious when I say I don't trust people with power, because so many abuse that. I wish you could see that, and not be so tied down to liberal/socialist/communist ideology. People like Obama are not Gods, and they're human just like me and you. When democrats figure this out, and figure they can screw people over just as easy as Bush can, than we might be heading in a better direction.

Drudge very often links Breitbart. And seldom has his own content. One of my hobbies: psychoanalyzing Drudge via his website. He has an unhealthy obsession with local weather, what Michelle Obama eats, kids causing trouble, parents causing trouble, cops causing trouble, cops failing to stop trouble, government saving the day, government not saving the day, yadda yadda I could go on and on.

But let me put down:

If we're both rational humans, we attack the content, not the source.

I should be able to say (and I can say): Fox News gets at least the facts right most of the time. I might have issues with which facts are presented, and issues with their editorializing on those facts, but at least the facts are there.

You should be able to say the same of the news sources you're criticizing.

tl;dr: debate the content, not the source.

[smelltheglove]

What? That conservatives can actually disagree with each other because we have free will? We don't mind to debate politics and ideology? That we question people with authority, and power? Yeah Imagine that. We have a mind of our own. Must be mind blowing.

no idea wtf you are saying here. i'll spell out what i am saying, since you seem to be struggling with it: you only accept sources that say exactly what you want to believe, and anything else is "liberal". you have said it repeatedly yourself, feel free to reread what you have written

[SirRobin]

There were still big businesses that donored to the Obama Campaign. Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, etc.

So are you trying to claim that he's appeasing his biggest donors? If that's the case shouldn't he be pushing back the public mandate too? If that's the case shouldn't he be pushing back the medical device tax too? But he isn't.

He could have been much more selective on his decree. But he wasn't. Letting lots of big business that didn't support him, get a delay.

[Deathcries]

Drudge very often links Breitbart. And seldom has his own content. One of my hobbies: psychoanalyzing Drudge via his website. He has an unhealthy obsession with local weather, what Michelle Obama eats, kids causing trouble, parents causing trouble, cops causing trouble, cops failing to stop trouble, government saving the day, government not saving the day, yadda yadda I could go on and on.

But let me put down:

If we're both rational humans, we attack the content, not the source.

I should be able to say (and I can say): Fox News gets at least the facts right most of the time. I might have issues with which facts are presented, and issues with their editorializing on those facts, but at least the facts are there.

You should be able to say the same of the news sources you're criticizing.

tl;dr: debate the content, not the source.

That is something we can both easily agree too. Even Matt Drudge gets things wrong some of the times. I like places with debate, and I believe TV shows should have the equal amount of Conservative Ideology, and Liberal Ideology. I believe it does the country good. I think too much of either can hurt the country and it's people. I believe people like me though help balance out the far left.

[SirRobin]

http://bspolitics.tumblr.com/post/64...-majority-vote first site I looked at. Also you're other link was shot down by the person who posted below you about how much money went into their campaigns, but why bother am I right?

So you're challenging the credibility of the source by linking one that says...

Here’s the text of House Resolution 368 if anyone is curious.

What is curious still, is the fact that it took two weeks for it to come out that this little resolution was passed, and the fact that I have not seen nor heard it reported on anywhere else besides the Huffington Post.

While the Huffington Post has often been called biased, there is the little fact that this actually happened, (there is video) and the resolution exists - so why are NONE of the major news outlets reporting on it?

How is any of that actually challenging the credibility of the source? Maybe it shows that mainstream media is more conservative than many prefer to believe and so didn't want to shed light on Boehner being stabbed in the back by his own party?

[Deathcries]

So are you trying to claim that he's appeasing his biggest donors? If that's the case shouldn't he be pushing back the public mandate too? If that's the case shouldn't he be pushing back the medical device tax too? But he isn't.

He could have been much more selective on his decree. But he wasn't. Letting lots of big business that didn't support him, get a delay.

However since he gave a deal to big business it should be fair all the way around, and let the individual folks bypass the mandate as well. It's only fair, wouldn't you agree? Or is there a special place for big business, and not the little folks?

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So you're challenging the credibility of the source by linking one that says...



How is any of that actually challenging the credibility of the source? Maybe it shows that mainstream media is more conservative than most believe and so didn't want to shed light on Boehner being stabbed in the back by his own party?

Because it's being taken out of context. There's more to the story than just what's in that video. Crap I linked the wrong link. Give me one second.

[ringpriest]

As I put out earlier, here's some prime examples of some far left loons

http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/

There are many many more.

The plural of anecdote is not data.

Also, please post a warning before linking NSFW images.

[Hooked]

I hope I live to see the day of the modern nuremberg trials for traitors of this country.

By that time the definition of traitor will be anyone opposing king obama. I heard his people are trying to fabricate fake emergencys so he can seize powa.

[Infracted]

[NYC17]

I don't know if you're a liberal, socialist, or communist, but you share their values and mindset by the post you're writing, I know because I do like to think for myself and I have a vision of people in power that play with our freedoms, as a threat. Obviously that upsets you, because you're posting rebuttals to my post. Thing is most people can function with a minimal .gov. I don't understand why people want someone else in their life, and I consider that as the same with social conservatives who want to be in other people's bedrooms.

Oh, you have a vision? Good for you. The problem is your vision is based off of inaccurate information and baseless assumptions. Your nonsense provides sustenance that your ideology requires, but it's artificial. You've created a circle of bullshit fertilizer that keeps you ideologically fat and happy, and doesn't force you to leave your reservation bubble.

Understand the problem with your labels now?

[SirRobin]

Also you're other link was shot down by the person who posted below you about how much money went into their campaigns, but why bother am I right?

Wait, did you want me to reply to this one too? Because if you kept reading you saw what the point was. So no shooting down actually took place. If you actually care enough to debate a topic and don't want to bother? Then why bother in the first place?

[fengosa]

If you're trying to make a point about businesses lobbying for gov favors you can do better than citing some of the world biggest philanthropists.

[belfpala]

That is something we can both easily agree too. Even Matt Drudge gets things wrong some of the times

But... Drudge isn't really a news source. He occasionally puts up some breaking news without a source, but that gets replaced with a link to some other source when it becomes available. Otherwise he just cherrypicks stories from other sources.

That's why I find it fun to psychoanalyze via his site. Basically: what kind of person would choose these links, of all the links available.

[SirRobin]

Because it's being taken out of context. There's more to the story than just what's in that video. Crap I linked the wrong link. Give me one second.

Its being taken out of context? Oh I would love to see the source saying that.

Dangit, need to get ready for a party this afternoon, back later. Really want to see the source claiming its out context.

[ringpriest]

You just don't like living in a country that rejects your positions generally speaking.

I'm not sure you are someone that can speak on behalf of the country.

But in this case Skroesec's right. I agree with a few of your positions, and vehemently disagree with others, but your views are not anywhere near those of the vast majority of Americans or American institutions. Skroesec isn't "speaking for America" he's just pointing out the reality of what America is.

[NYC17]

However since he gave a deal to big business it should be fair all the way around, and let the individual folks bypass the mandate as well. It's only fair, wouldn't you agree? Or is there a special place for big business, and not the little folks?

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Because it's being taken out of context. There's more to the story than just what's in that video. Crap I linked the wrong link. Give me one second.

Stop talking about the employer mandate. It is clear you have no functional knowledge of it, or the larger law itself.

[Whidbey]

[Cthulhu 2020]

"I don't trust the establishment, anyone in power, or the media without questioning it." *Trusts the Tea Party establishment, most Republicans in power, and spews rhetoric from right wing media without question*

Oh MMO-C righties, never stop giving me the best laughs.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Tea party forgot to have their tea in the morning. That's why they are so nuts.

[Poopymonster]

I'm still looking for an actual socialist takeover.

Real socialism, not the KILL IT WITH GAWD & GUNZ buzzword version.

[ringpriest]

Facts is it? Who was it that REFUSED to even negotiate? Was that the Republicans? It is a talking point that has been thrown around since the shut down started on Liberal leaning mainstream media channels. It is not FACT! And it is highly unprofessional of a moderator to inject their political ideals into a thread. You can sit here and nod your head and agree all you want with this garbage, but if the shoe was on the other foot and it was the Democrats "causing the shut down" over an issue, it would STILL be the Republicans fault. Or better yet, just blame Bush!

Can I burn down your house?

No

Just the 2nd floor?

No

Garage?

No

Let's talk about what I can burn down.

No

YOU AREN'T NEGOTIATING!

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Does anyone know of an island or country that isn't socialist run so I can renounced by American citizenship and get away from these Liberal retards?

I've been given the impression that Somalia is a near-ideal libertarian state. Or if you're more of a religious-conservative type, Saudi Arabia should be right up your alley.