Just wondering, since we startet SoO heroic few weeks ago. How many tries did your guild need to down SoO HC bosses?
We're currently 4/14 Hc and are like:
Immerseus ~ 30 tries
Protectors ~ 55 tries
Norushen ~ idk
Galakras ~ 40 tries
Just wondering, since we startet SoO heroic few weeks ago. How many tries did your guild need to down SoO HC bosses?
We're currently 4/14 Hc and are like:
Immerseus ~ 30 tries
Protectors ~ 55 tries
Norushen ~ idk
Galakras ~ 40 tries
only killed norushen on HC so far. but he can't have taken more than 7 or 8 tries for my guild
0 for 6 on Immerseus; we just finished normal two weeks ago, and our main tank quit until WoD, so we actually need to retool a bit. Not sure how far we'll get, not everyone is committed to the learning curve heroics require.
I will say this; just doing Immerseus on H gives me a new-found respect for guilds that killed him on Heroic a week in; we probably average somewhere in the high 550's for gear level as a group, and what could the top end guilds have been at...maybe high 540's? Impressive.
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Actually no. 556 for Method in 25s and 553 for Paragon in 10s for their respective first kills. Not sure if there's also the heroic items they got from the bosses, but all in all the top guilds did immerseus hc with gear a bit past 550.
Not saying that what they are able to do isn't impressive, but immerseus isn't it. The gear level they do the harder bosses (siege+) is impressive with the gear they had at the time.
anywhere form 1 to 100 we 1 shot imersus hc and it too us about 50 to get shammies right were about there on malkorok hc also
The only one I can remember for sure is Norushen, others are just estimates.
Immerseus: ~10
Fallen Protectors: ~10
Norushen: 3
Sha of Pride: ~15
Galakras: ~5
Iron Juggernaut: ~15
Kor'kron Dark Shaman: ~10
General Nazgrim: ~15
Malkorok: ~75
Spoils of Pandaria: ~25
Thok the Bloodthirsty: ~75
Siegecrafter Blackfuse: ~300
Paragons of the Klaxxi: ~75
Garrosh Hellscream: In the 100s atm, no kill yet.
Some of these might be totally wrong, but it was ages ago we got the first 10 kills, we had a quite long Xmas break and I have the memory of a 95y old.
Last edited by mmoceec252ebf2; 2014-02-18 at 11:57 AM.
1-5 shot everything up to Dark shamans I believe. (Including nazgrim)
Then on average about 20-50 everything up to Thok which took I think 70. Then I stopped raiding.
We cleared a while ago but it's worth putting up for reference to gouge difficulty (this is 25 man heroic).
Immerseus - 1 Attempt
Fallen Protectors - 5 Attempts
Norushen - 1 Attempt
Sha of Pride - 9 Attempts
Galakras - 1 Attempt
Iron Juggernaut - 1 Attempt
Dark Shaman - 4 Attempts
General Nazgrim - 6 Attempts
Malkorok - 25 Attempts
Spoils of Pandaria - 35 Attempts
Thok - 41 Attempts
Siegecrafter Blackfuse - ~ 200 Attempts
Paragons of the Klaxxi - ~ 120 Attempts
Garrosh - ~ 200 Attempts
To be noted, because we cleared pretty fast, the majority of these kills we were significantly undergeared (we were 564 when we killed Siegecrafter HC for the first time before all the nerfs.)
Last edited by Anzen; 2014-02-18 at 12:21 PM.
Immerseus: 2
Fallen Protectors: 3
Norushen: 5-ish
Sha: 4
Galakras: 8-ish
Juggernaut: 5
Dark Shaman: 33 with the stack tactic. Looking back that was a terrible decision and splitting the bosses would've saved us hours
Nazgrim: 6-ish
Malkorok: Somewhere in the 30s
Spoils: 30-45
Thok: 68
Siegecrafter: 236
Paragons: 159
Garrosh: 425
All that totaled to around 170 hours of raiding over ~3½ weeks.
Jeez some of you guys went through the first few with ease.
My guild started Heroic this past reset, skipped Immerseus (struggled to adapt to the fight...) and went for Fallen Protectors. Downed last night after 35 attempts. Will be attempting Norushen this evening.
151 thok pre-nerf
160 Blackfuse pos-nerf (but only 15 tries was pos-nerf)
155 Paragons pos-nerf
Around 40 in Garrosh, work on 2nd phase.
No PTR testing.
First week of tier:
Immerseus: 2
Protectors: 9
Norushen: 12 (1 shot after we switched to the burn method)
Galakras: 4
Iron Juggernaut: 6
Week 2
Sha of Pride: 5
Shamans: 8
Nazgrim: 2
Malkorok: 38
Week 3
Spoils: 54
Week 4
Thokk: 37
Week 6
Siegecrafter: 127
Week 8
Paragons: 133
Wee 11
Garrosh: 192
35 raid days/105ish hours
Paragons was hands down the hardest fight. Over 50% of our Garrosh wipes were lack of DPS from lack of gear. Trying to push P3 in 1 whirl with <570 ilvl is not easy.
Last edited by Gliff; 2014-02-18 at 12:31 PM.
Immerseus: 3
Fallen Protectors: 3
Norushen: 2 with nuke tac. Some wipes after the changes tho.
Sha: 10~
Galakras: 1
Juggernaut: 1
Dark Shaman: 20~
Nazgrim: 10~
Malkorok: 40~
Spoils: 40~
Thok: 50~
Siegecrafter: 130~
Paragons: 160~
Garrosh: 100~
I remember us oneshotting somebosses and some we had alot of wipes on. J
Klaxxi was absolutely the harder boss this tier.
Thok was about 150 pre nerf
Blackfuse again about 150 Post nerf
Paragons about 70 Post nerf
Starting on Garrosh this upcoming week
before this I cant begin to remember, we took a month off for Christmas and new years so everything before that is a blur lol
We are a heroic 10 man group, recently cleared! All are rough estimates:
Immerseus: 30
Fallen Protectors: 15
Norushen: 5
Sha of Pride: 20
Galakras: 5
Iron Juggernaut: 15
Dark Shamans: 13
Nazgrim: 20
Malkorak: 40
Spoils: 30(not entirely sure)
Thok: 70
Siegecrafter: 140
Paragons: 40
Garrosh: 310
Last edited by sasofrass; 2014-02-18 at 12:44 PM.
cause first 8 are easy - and those who say about 1-10 tries/kill either play on cutting edge skill lv or were doin them 25 man
most of dmg this tier is spike dmg so no matter whether ur 570 or 550 if u fuck up mechanics ull die -_- (at least on first few bosses )
people who have better skills just have way less random accident deaths then average causal Hc guild which leads to "lets wipe and redo fight from beggining"
Last edited by kamuimac; 2014-02-18 at 12:48 PM.
10 man heroic, 3.5 hours, 4 days/week, no PTR testing, cleared ~1 week ago
Immerseus: ~10
Fallen Protectors: ~10
Norushen: 3
Sha of Pride: ~20
Galakras: 17
Iron Juggernaut: 12
Dark Shamans: 8
Nazgrim: ~20
Malkorok: 80
Spoils: ~40
Thok: ~80
Siegecrafter: 285
Paragons: 65
Garrosh: 365