SoO dps

[Artorius]

haha normal gear..... Sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

as a reminder wow armory does exist.

He has heroic feet, oh holy shit!!!

[Raiju]

Show me logs.

That would require a log to give sweetie.

[Deleted]

www .worldoflogs. com/reports/u1v2lmosiylb2klr/sum/damageDone/?s=189&e=412#Qeu

This is me doing 375k dps in full normal gear on Iron Juggernaut - it does not get anymore patchworky than that (yeah as a rogue you can stay in melee 100%)
I am not saying anyone can do that or that it is easy, but it is certainly doable.

A fight less than 4mins? The thread is of progress purposes, you don't do Jugg in 4mins during progress, so 375k would likely be below 300k in a full fight.

I've done almost 600k dps on Dark Shamans normal (Fire Mage), I don't walk around on forums saying 600k is perfectly reasonable with my gear.

[Raiju]

I've done almost 600k dps on Dark Shamans normal (Fire Mage), I don't walk around on forums saying 600k is perfectly reasonable with my gear.

ur doin it wrong

I do over 1m sustained dps.

I will get you a boss log to prove it, don't mind that it's against a celestial on timeless isle that dies in <60 seconds.

[sourmonkey]

depends on the fight and the spec .

For instance Warrior DPS some fights Arms seems to do than better and vice versa . some fights favor ranged while others favor melee you can not get a static dps amount .

best way to look is check your logs for a month then for each boss add that fights dps you done up then divide by 4 and see what you get as averaged dps for you on that fight then compare it with someone in a similar guild .

[reef]

www .worldoflogs. com/reports/u1v2lmosiylb2klr/sum/damageDone/?s=189&e=412#Qeu

This is me doing 375k dps in full normal gear on Iron Juggernaut - it does not get anymore patchworky than that (yeah as a rogue you can stay in melee 100%)
I am not saying anyone can do that or that it is easy, but it is certainly doable.

it doesn't look like you've received any new gear since that log. you had multiple heroic pieces including 2 heroic weapons, and 30% uptime on your 10 sec trink. basically, this is not an average parse for someone in full normal soo gear with average trinket uptime.

[Normie]

I've cleared Flex with a team barely topping 130k with the top dps.

There are so many problems with the data that players look at that it is difficult to imagine that more than a smidgen of them would have any idea what is actually going on.

[Artorius]

it doesn't look like you've received any new gear since that log. you had multiple heroic pieces including 2 heroic weapons, and 30% uptime on your 10 sec trink. basically, this is not an average parse for someone in full normal soo gear with average trinket uptime.

Oh, I hadn't noticed the weapons... Sorry fellow Rogue, you're supposed to do more :|

[Toiran]

How To Post In A Thread About DPS

Step 1
Take your average DPS from a kill of a certain boss. Got it? Perfect! Now double it.
That is now your DPS on that boss, remember, the higher the number the better you are.

Step 2
Now you have your snazzy new DPS numbers, throw them around in peoples faces; make sure to use 'key phrases' just so every can truly admire how superior you are. Some examples are:

I can easily sustain 600k on Iron Jugg.
I did 450k and I'm still missing [List Items].
I weren't even paying attention and I did 2.3M on protectors.

Step 3
Facts and evidence are for nerds. As an Elemental Shaman I would be in the top 10% of Elemental Shamans on a single target fight (used Iron Juggernaut) if I broke 375k. Obviously this is a l2p issue on the player-bases behalf, but don't let that stop you claiming things like "I do 375k in normal gear", the community will see you are just vastly superior to everyone else and give you the praise you deserve.

Crap, lunch break.

So I followed your advice, thanks, I pull 800k easily on Protectors AND Sha, and I don't even have a HWF Wep or full BiS, I probably wasn't even paying attention either tbh, if you do and aren't pulling 800k you should just log off.

400K minimum for heroics made me laugh too much.

I looked at our latest log for first 10 for averages overall, and the highest is 444k, and lowest 230k, and he's pretty badly geared, so a minimum of 250k makes sense to me, but that is the minimum, I'd say the real average is 300k, too many variables but it seems about right.

For flex I can't really say, the groups im in for flex for heirlooms are always like 20/25 in normal and heroic gear, with the rest in lfr and flex or alts, same for normal.

[dzidek]

Trolling level: mmo-champ user. Simply give three completely meaningless numbers and soon there is a lot of seasonal experts who know better. But this topic is ridiculous and that was my answer. But I am pleased that my post was used as the beginning of a heated debate

[Anzen]

So I followed your advice, thanks, I pull 800k easily on Protectors AND Sha, and I don't even have a HWF Wep or full BiS, I probably wasn't even paying attention either tbh, if you do and aren't pulling 800k you should just log off.

400K minimum for heroics made me laugh too much.

I looked at our latest log for first 10 for averages overall, and the highest is 444k, and lowest 230k, and he's pretty badly geared, so a minimum of 250k makes sense to me, but that is the minimum, I'd say the real average is 300k, too many variables but it seems about right.

For flex I can't really say, the groups im in for flex for heirlooms are always like 20/25 in normal and heroic gear, with the rest in lfr and flex or alts, same for normal.

Welcome brother.

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He has heroic feet, oh holy shit!!!

The two heroic weapons he had probably helped.

I am pleased that my post was used as the beginning of a heated debate

It's sad to say I actually enjoy threads like this more than others.

For reference, RaidBots has a DPS bot that shows an average of all parses (based on World of Logs data) for each boss.

The average normal DPS.
Even this would be slightly higher than it should be because of people doing normal in heroic gear.

[ThePants999]

Anyone who talks about specific numbers as a minimum/average/target/appropriate/whatever without specifying a fight is talking rubbish. It's nonsensical to talk about the numbers you put out in a raid environment without talking about a specific boss - I don't know about you guys, but I have >100K differences between my best and worst bosses. Hell, even if we just talk about Immerseus, if you put me in heroic I'll "magically" do a bunch more DPS than I do in normal, even with the same gear, cos now there's adds to cleave.

[Artorius]

The two heroic weapons probably helped.

Yeap, I hadn't noticed them before, my bad.
And at his gear he is supposed to be able to pull almost 10K more, doesn't matter anyway...

[TEHPALLYTANK]

Divide boss health by enrage timer, now divide that by how many dps you have, now you have the minimum dps needed to kill the boss. Now push another 10%-20% above the minimum and you'll have enough to kill the boss while allowing for some mistakes.

[Deleted]

ur doin it wrong

I do over 1m sustained dps.

I will get you a boss log to prove it, don't mind that it's against a celestial on timeless isle that dies in <60 seconds.

1m? 0.001? Ok.

I've hit 6M dps on Xuen (9M at peak) with a 45M Combustion. I guess I could use that too.

[announced]

coming from a 10/14 heroic 10man guild (working on 11) 330k dps sustained is very good for a raider, this is around 570 ilvl btw, some raiders do more around the 350 or 360 range.. but not many will get to 400, unless they cheese the fight somehow by having like no1 kill adds except 1 person, or they decide to multidot when its not needed. for flex 120k-180k dps is great.. although most wont do more than 150 or 160k unless they arent there for flex equips or just 1. and for normal 200-240k tends to be the highest ive seen. more is always better though.

[Raiju]

1m? 0.001? Ok.

I've hit 6M dps on Xuen (9M at peak) with a 45M Combustion. I guess I could use that too.

Ofcourse you should. It was a bad day too.

[Artorius]

For single target DPS comparisons use Iron Juggernault please, if you can stay at the boss during sieg phase then it's literally a patchwerk fight.
And for god's sake, maximum normal gear DPS =\= required DPS to down a boss. People start normals at around 550 if they have legendary cape and flex gear, normal gear goes all the way up to 567 ~ 568.

[Kalmah]

For single target DPS comparisons use Iron Juggernault please, if you can stay at the boss during sieg phase then it's literally a patchwerk fight.
And for god's sake, maximum normal gear DPS =\= required DPS to down a boss. People start normals at around 550 if they have legendary cape and flex gear, normal gear goes all the way up to 567 ~ 568.

Juggernaut is way too short to really compare dps on. If you have good raid dps it's easily in the 3 min range, which is short enough that initial burst still carries your dps. As affliction, there's a huge difference in personal dps between a 3 minute kill and a 5+ minute kill. We're talking 50k+ dps differences.

[anaxie]

Flex: 200k (just a guess)
Norm: 330k (Raidbots 25M)
Heroic: 450k (Raidbots 25M)

But the answer, as well as the question, is pointless.

This guy is a hundred miles off chart lol