Islamic State fighter tells ITV News militants are heading to Europe

[Dacien]

True, but they aren’t alone either

It's hard to treat the data with the seriousness it requires when they're represented as bolded stick figures holding what look like guitars.

They need to sinister it up a little bit in that graphic.

[Kalis]

But do we really know the motives and who the perpetrators really are, though?

No, it’s a complete mystery as to what the ideology of hardcore Islamists killing in the name of Islam is. If only there was some clue.

[Fonduset]

First reply, didn't take long

Didn't take long for what? Pointing out a reasonable observation from the migrant crisis?

[Kalis]

boring nothing place vs adventure and meaning

I called Belgium boring and got a rant from Acidbaron saying how exciting it is.

[PACOX]

Boring. We know most terrorists in the West tend to be radicalized in the countries they attack. Very few of them are "sent over" and there certainly isnt legions of them being sent. Unless by sent you the people go to the ME for whatever jihadi BS training they get and come back to blow themself up.

Im about tired of ISIS BS and people buying into. Im more worried about the disgruntled workers than some jihadist.

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I called Belgium boring and got a rant from Acidbaron saying how exciting it is.

its a poor mans netherlands

the longer answer :

Belgium suffered waves of terrorism in the 1980s and 1990s linked to unrest in the Middle East, lots of belgium (former colony) citizens went to Iraq, the first european women to die wearing a suicide vest was a catholic convert from belgium (converts tend to be more zealous and grim generally), many more then went to afganistan to join AQ. Saudi backed mosques sprang up and preached the only true Islam is thier wahhabist purist version (and since they control the two holy sites it has alot a weight) add the classic amplification factor of the classic between two worlds and rejected by both of them and you have a prime ground for a hotbed of terrorism.

(also add to all this belguims an easy place to get guns)

[Acidbaron]

I called Belgium boring and got a rant from Acidbaron saying how exciting it is.

You really need to learn to let this go, this is rather sad also you have been to what Brussels i believe, what is a small part of and hardly the place i would recommend anyone to go to, but it is your choice to remain ignorant so can't really help you there.



But thank you for your interest in Belgium again, the high rate of Syrian fighters are a combination of the politics surrounding the Region of Brussels. Instead of addressing issues the politicians present there worked on using people with a high immigration background as a method to staying in power. This more reflects to the socialists, who created a rather poor welfare mentality, on top of that Brussels isn't know for their smart investments.

So combine a city in decay, failing politics, failed integration politics (more like non existent) and you get all the right elements for hate preachers to recruit a lost generation. This recruitment also takes or took place in the other regions, but i know for Flanders. They are more hands on when it comes to closing down illegal prayer houses, sending back hate preachers and a much more hands on policy when it comes to unemployment. Sadly to obtain the autonomy we want that means other regions get that autonomy also and sadly Brussels fails rather hard in their task.

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its a poor mans netherlands

the longer answer :

Belgium suffered waves of terrorism in the 1980s and 1990s linked to unrest in the Middle East, lots of belgium (former colony) citizens went to Iraq, the first european women to die wearing a suicide vest was a catholic convert from belgium (converts tend to be more zealous and grim generally), many more then went to afganistan to join AQ. Saudi backed mosques sprang up and preached the only true Islam is thier wahhabist purist version (and since they control the two holy sites it has alot a weight) add the classic amplification factor of the classic between two worlds and rejected by both of them and you have a prime ground for a hotbed of terrorism.

(also add to all this belguims an easy place to get guns)

My party is in the process of sending back the head of the great mosque of Brussels and in the process of revoking more visas of Imam's trained in SA and elsewhere with questionable backgrounds. Not the most popular decision with the left or moderates but they had their shot for the last 30 years and look what happened.

Poor mans netherlands comparison is off, considering the wealthy region is the dutch speaking one and the french speaking one is the region that drags the rest down mostly due to poor handling of the mine closures and a lot of lee way to unions when it comes to strikes.

[Khaza-R]

What’s going on with Belgium?

I don’t know much about Begium but I imagine it’s a similar paradox as France. French-Algerians are not uncommon to find in IS but if you look at Algeria in the chart you can see that’s not where it comes from.

I think another poster summed it better than I can. When people live in ghettos with limited purpose and no sense of belonging in society, the calls of some radical imam who can give them both start to sound tempting.

[Corroc]

And what country made the great decision to let those fighters leave the cities? I really fucking hope someone nukes USA and they finally get what they deserve.

Infracted

[Deleted]

Yawn ... ISIS terrorist threats again ...

They had their chance to frighten us, they failed.

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And what country made the great decision to let those fighters leave the cities? I really fucking hope someone nukes USA and they finally get what they deserve.

Ye, so funny what USA did. I thought Trump and the "Mad Dog" were going to obliterate them. I guess their overlords had the final say, once again.

[Kalis]

You really need to learn to let this go...

I didn’t actually care what was going on in Belgium, it was a rhetorical device to express surprise at somewhere so dull having a problem with Islamic extremism.

Poor mans netherlands comparison is off...

The term ‘poor man’s something’ is often used as a euphemism for it being a shittier version, it is not always meant literally.

[Deleted]

ISIS confirmed for slowpokes. They've been here since 2015.

[Deleted]

Can someone make a meme called "Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi did nothing wrong"

[Paulosio]

No one should be surprised. They have been coming over disguised as refugees for years.

They don't need to come as refugees... Plenty of Europeans went over to Syria to fight and many of them will return home and be free to do as they please. It's been happening for years and it will continue to happen.

[Trassk]

ISIS have been saying this for years, our security services have been saying this, the jihadis have been carrying out attacks already.

yep, and sjws have for years been sticking their fingers in their ears claiming its not true or its not a problem and that all migrants are innocent little flowers.

[ButterBeast]

I seriously can't tell if you are joking, and that scares me. RIP Europe, you had a good run.

Still beats your corrupt shit. Also american weeabs unironically thinking they are somehow superior to ANYONE. Lmao

[Machismo]

Wait, aren't we supposed to say that they are such a small, teensy, weensy part of the population, that they should be ignored, and don't pose any threat?

I'm pretty sure that's what we were told to do with Nazis and white nationalists.

[Kalis]

yep, and sjws have for years been sticking their fingers in their ears claiming its not true or its not a problem and that all migrants are innocent little flowers.

I think a lot of them had this image of refugees being old people, young women and small children, whilst the men stayed to fight. Which is fair enough, those are the stereotypes of refugees, but the reality was a load of fighting age men and when they all turned up they’d been bleating on for so long about helping the poor refugees that they couldn’t back down and say it is perhaps not a good idea to let them all in.

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Wait, aren't we supposed to say that they are such a small, teensy, weensy part of the population, that they should be ignored, and don't pose any threat?

I'm pretty sure that's what we were told to do with Nazis and white nationalists.

They outnumber the far right. At least in the UK, where the security services are swamped in attempting to keep tabs on jihadis.

[Machismo]

I think a lot of them had this image of refugees being old people, young women and small children, whilst the men stayed to fight. Which is fair enough, those are the stereotypes of refugees, but the reality was a load of fighting age men and when they all turned up they’d been bleating on for so long about helping the poor refugees that they couldn’t back down and say it is perhaps not a good idea to let them all in.

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They outnumber the far right. At least in the UK, where the security services are swamped in attempting to keep tabs on jihadis.

I highly doubt that ISIS "refugees" outnumber Nazis and white nationalists in the UK. The EDL alone had 25-35k members, and that was 6 years ago.

[Deleted]

A graph showing the amount of fighters per million people when you compare it to countries with an 8x bigger population is pretty dumb.

Belgium had 250 fighters, Germany has over 300 (most likely 3 times the amount the German government gives out, according to legitimate statistic websites that estimate that around 0.1% of the refugees they took in are fighters).

If you look at how many EU citizens joined ISIS, nearly 80% comes from the UK, France & Germany alone.

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It's hard to treat the data with the seriousness it requires when they're represented as bolded stick figures holding what look like guitars.

They need to sinister it up a little bit in that graphic.

https://infographic.statista.com/nor...ome_From_n.jpg