"One day, Silvermoon will stand on the side of the Alliance, I know it"

[Maxilian]

yeah she is showing a very late stage of stockholm syndrome...
she does know that alliance tried to kill 'her ppl' twice, on sight, by her 'beloved' husband race the humans

Well... it makes sense, she have not been around for a while, and the one who told her everything was one of the main culprit of the massacre of innocents in Dalaran.... so yeah

[Combatbutler]

Well they could hold Silvermoon (only) with the might of the Alliance (yeah they are not many but they have the whole Alliance at their side).

Not really they don't have a population to maintain the infrastructure of the kingdom and not enough troops to effectively control the borders, you can't expect the other Alliance races to pitch in thousands of soldiers so that they can hold a ghost town.

[Maxilian]

Repeated betrayals when it was only Garithos that betrayed them, not humanity as a whole.

Well.... its unfair to say it was only Garithos, the HE got imprisoned in the Dalaran (So the Kirin Tor knew, even more when you have in mind that Kael was a member of the Kirin Tor in that moment)

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Not really they don't have a population to maintain the infrastructure of the kingdom and not enough troops to effectively control the borders, you can't expect the other Alliance races to pitch in thousands of soldiers so that they can hold a ghost town.

Well... it doesn't have to be a ghost town, maybe they are holding it as a defend point (maybe they only pushed the BE out of Silvermoon to the Isles of Quelthalas -so the conflict may concentrate there for a while, reason enough for the Alliance to care)

[Arrashi]

If everyone in WoW said something and become true we would be fucked by now.

Would be nice if Lorthemar kills her tough, He is cool

I would love to see alleria being executed by hanging in the middle of silvermoon. With her people cheering as her "for the alliance" yells turn into gurgle.

[Marcellus1986]

Well.... its unfair to say it was only Garithos, the HE got imprisoned in the Dalaran (So the Kirin Tor knew, even more when you have in mind that Kael was a member of the Kirin Tor in that moment)

The betrayal of the blood elves happened post-Silvermoon collapse iirc (it was part of The Frozen Throne expansion to WC3), so the question is how intact was the Kirin Tor at this point since Arthas pretty much killed off most of their leadership.

[Kithelle]

- Alleria Windrunner's new line on ptr.

Please. Make it happen. That would be glorious to see Lor'Themar being kicked out from Quel'Thalas.

Except it wont happen...Blizzard would never want upset it's golden children.

[Maxilian]

The betrayal of the blood elves happened post-Silvermoon collapse iirc (it was part of The Frozen Throne expansion to WC3), so the question is how intact was the Kirin Tor at this point since Arthas pretty much killed off most of their leadership.

Well the head of the Kirin Tor was one (most likely that's how we ended up with the council), sadly it seems that the wisdom was only on him, and not in the rest of the council.

Or Garithos may have taken advantage of the lack of leadership of Dalaran and do whatever he wanted.

[Kithelle]

I would love to see alleria being executed by hanging in the middle of silvermoon. With her people cheering as her "for the alliance" yells turn into gurgle.

Except the odds are it will be the sister Sylvanas that will suffer this fate, which would be a great day indeed!

[Combatbutler]

Well... it doesn't have to be a ghost town, maybe they are holding it as a defend point (maybe they only pushed the BE out of Silvermoon to the Isles of Quelthalas -so the conflict may concentrate there for a while, reason enough for the Alliance to care)

If the Alliance has taken Silvermoon then the sunwell would fall as well, since the elves can sit out any siege behind their shield and it would be breached by taking the city, so either the blood elves take the isle of Quel'danas to the sky and flee or blow it up.

I'd like for the Alliance to win so to speak, only for the blood elves to evacuate all of their people beforehand, taking their treasures and knowledge with them setting Silvermoon ablaze, either uplift Quel'danas and move it across the ocean or blow the sunwell up.

[Marcellus1986]

Well the head of the Kirin Tor was one (most likely that's how we ended up with the council), sadly it seems that the wisdom was only on him, and not in the rest of the council.

Or Garithos may have taken advantage of the lack of leadership of Dalaran and do whatever he wanted.

Eh? I thought Antonidas was head of the Kirin Tor. He was human. Unless you’re talking about post-Arthas which then I don’t know admittedly.

[Combatbutler]

Except the odds are it will be the sister Sylvanas that will suffer this fate, which would be a great day indeed!

It would only be a great day if the entire windrunner clan is exterminated.

[Arrashi]

Except the odds are it will be the sister Sylvanas that will suffer this fate, which would be a great day indeed!

Those odds are very small if you know anything about lore

[Maxilian]

If the Alliance has taken Silvermoon then the sunwell would fall as well, since the elves can sit out any siege behind their shield and it would be breached by taking the city, so either the blood elves take the isle of Quel'danas to the sky and flee or blow it up.

I'd like for the Alliance to win so to speak, only for the blood elves to evacuate all of their people beforehand, taking their treasures and knowledge with them setting Silvermoon ablaze, either uplift Quel'danas and move it across the ocean or blow the sunwell up.

Well with their new allies full of Naval power, it may not be impossible to defend the isles of Quel'danas (having the horde try to reclaim Silvermoon, while the Alliance try to claim the Isles of Queldanas).

Note: I don't think they would blow the sunwell, but having in mind that they have the Sunwell (a source of incredible power) and Dalaran can fly without that, it may not be impossible.

Note2: It would be really nice to have the Alliance push into Silvermoon only to be stopped by the barrier (it is so great that it can stop many attacks from dragons), just to have the Alliance call for the Vindicaar (and have it blow a whole in the barrier for the Alliance to push in)

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Eh? I thought Antonidas was head of the Kirin Tor. He was human. Unless you’re talking about post-Arthas which then I don’t know admittedly.

I did meant Antonidas, he was human, but the Elves were a big part of the Kirin Tor while he was the head, and they didn't had many problems, maybe after his death the division happened (The moments before the creation of the council?)

[Combatbutler]

Well with their new allies full of Naval power, it may not be impossible to defend the isles of Quel'danas (having the horde try to reclaim Silvermoon, while the Alliance try to claim the Isles of Queldanas).

Silvermoon is utterly isolated, if the city falls it is game over

Note: I don't think they would blow the sunwell, but having in mind that they have the Sunwell (a source of incredible power) and Dalaran can fly without that, it may not be impossible.

They did it before to stop the amani and they don't need to be afraid of any addiction problems either way the nightborne have the arcandor, even though Rommath mentioned the blood elves have overcome their addiction off screen.

Note2: It would be really nice to have the Alliance push into Silvermoon only to be stopped by the barrier (it is so great that it can stop many attacks from dragons), just to have the Alliance call for the Vindicaar (and have it blow a whole in the barrier for the Alliance to push in)

The vindicaar doesn't really have that kind of firepower.

[GreenJesus]

She can go be raped by tentacles in the void lands. Fuck that Alleria bitch. Who the fuck does she think she is? That traitor bitch slut.

[Jakerel]

In World of Warcraft? No, not a chance....

In the Warcraft Universe, maybe though.

Beyond game mechanics though, it's not actually entirely unfeasible in Lore. The Blood Elves allegiance with the Horde was due to the actions of past leaders (both Human and Elf alike). And had Jaina not done as she did during the story of Mists, things may have been different in Lore even now.
And if you look deep enough, those doubts can still be found in places even now. Should the Horde under Sylvanas' rule go down just as dark a path as it did under Garosh, I'm fairly sure Lor'themar along with the others in pivotal roles within the Blood Elf race would want to disconnect themselves from it all. Kael'thas led them down a bad path once before, they followed Garosh down one for some time too. We all know of the phrase "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me". Well for them to it a 3rd time would just be insanity.

But that's also not to say they would even join the alliance after something like that. And if they did at a time when the Alliance controlled all of Eastern Kingdoms, it would be an allegiance of mutual benefit, than a devotion of service like they were under Horde leadership.

[Frontenac]

Of course it won't happen (not in WoW anyway). That line is just to show that she still cares for her people, but that she believes that they are on the wrong side. Those are better sentiments than Vereesa's...

[tkioz]

Yeah... You're huffing a bit too much void magic there if you think after all the shit humans, and remember Arthas was human when he invaded, have pulled on the Blood Elves they'll never stand with that filth again. The High Elves, and the Void Elf freaks, are traitors to their people and legacy and should be put down like the dogs they are.

See two can play this game.

[derpkitteh]

The betrayal of the blood elves happened post-Silvermoon collapse iirc (it was part of The Frozen Throne expansion to WC3), so the question is how intact was the Kirin Tor at this point since Arthas pretty much killed off most of their leadership.

modera was a member of the council back then and present when garithos was going to execute the blood elves.

and then the third betrayal is the purge of dalaran by jaina.

humanity has betrayed them three times, they don't deserve to be trusted again.

[Aeula]

It'll be an empty fucking city if that ever happens.

One day she'll wake up and realize she's become that which she despises so much.