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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by hulkgor View Post
    That's not accurate at all. Most people interested in Vanilla want it because the live\retail\wtv version has 'lost its way', and is a different game entirely.

    Me and my group of friends are all eager for Classic, yet none of us is currently subbed to live (we did play Legion for a while though).
    I have friends like that. Then they go play on a private realm... for a whole two weeks.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by iamthedevil View Post
    I have friends like that. Then they go play on a private realm... for a whole two weeks.
    Some, sure, others play for months and have a great time.

    You do realize a lot of people can't really be bothered with shady admins on legacy realms, the doubt about servers future (many get taken down or just 'die' for other reasons and people don't really want to spend time with that doubt on the horizon), etc.

    It's a whole new ball game having an official Blizzard supported realm.

    Who knew!?

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by hulkgor View Post
    Some, sure, others play for months and have a great time.

    You do realize a lot of people can't really be bothered with shady admins on legacy realms, the doubt about servers future (many get taken down or just 'die' for other reasons and people don't really want to spend time with that doubt on the horizon), etc.

    It's a whole new ball game having an official Blizzard supported realm.

    Who knew!?
    Agreed I dont waste time on private servers for that reason.

  4. #44
    With almost every single person who wants Vanilla servers making a thread about QoL must haves that have been implemented over the years on live, but insisting they are nothing at all like every single other thread asking for changes to Vanilla.. let us just say I'm going to enjoy the fallout from this shitslosion from afar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hulkgor View Post
    That's not accurate at all. Most people interested in Vanilla want it because the live\retail\wtv version has 'lost its way', and is a different game entirely.

    Me and my group of friends are all eager for Classic, yet none of us is currently subbed to live (we did play Legion for a while though).
    It's about as accurate as your assumption based on your handful of friends. I mean as long as we're being anecdotal about it almost everyone I know that plays retail is at least somewhat interested in Classic realms, but not one single person I know that's quit WoW is interested in them.

    Your idea that most people interested in Classic have stopped playing retail is predicated on the mistaken belief that there was some sort of mass exodus due to the direction of the game rather than the reality that WoW just hit a point where more people were leaving than new people were signing up because it's old as balls. People quit WoW left and right long before we saw the big sub drops, it's just that there was a constant flow of people to replace them. Now there isn't, because a 12 year old game is a very hard sell.

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  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Theprejudice View Post
    Source please?

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    If by record time you mean 6 years, and by 5 people you mean 16 then sure, record time. Maybe you should actually research what you're talking about?
    Even longer than that, more like 12-13 years and most likely by a lot more people.

  8. #48
    I am hoping this means they are scrapping the project.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by motive View Post
    Nope! Keep coping legion baby. Classic is imminent, believe me.
    So, they fill the position on Friday and you think Classic is ready for launch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturmbringe View Post
    You are such a cutie. Why do you troll us? It won't be much more than 6 months.
    You can either choose to be overly optimistic or realistic. I choose realistic.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommi View Post
    Like I've said before, if this sub-forum is any indication as to what the Classic community will be like then I pity poor randoms who give the realms a try.

    I do genuinely wonder if people will stop DPS if they are about to over aggro the tank, or just blame the tank. Same with the limited debuff slots, I can pretty much guarantee people will overwrite critical debuffs like Sunder Armour due to MAH DEEPS!!
    the vanilla community isn't shit on its own, if anti-vanilla hardons would stay the fuck out and stop pissing on our interests and if people would stop with "add QOL!" left and right, then the community would seem perfectly fine.

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Natiry427 View Post
    Looks like the position got filled!

    Baby steps forward, fellas!
    Who cares? It could be the result of an internal transfer, internal promotion, or the position could have been removed. Likewise, they may have gone with a Junior Software Engineer. Let me know when they announce more information.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by MardestyGSOG View Post
    the vanilla community isn't shit on its own, if anti-vanilla hardons would stay the fuck out and stop pissing on our interests and if people would stop with "add QOL!" left and right, then the community would seem perfectly fine.
    Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!

    Yeah, because the "Classic-crowd" didn't flood over forums everywhere to piss over Blizzard, the Live game and the fans of the current game starting with the shutdown of a certain private server and spanning all the way up to... well, now.

    It's not very easy for people to "stop pissing" on your interests, when anyone not as fanatical about this crap is branded as "anti-Vanilla Retailer trolls!!" and whatever other derogatory terms your "superior community" has conjured up to fuel the "us vs them"-mentality.
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  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by epLe View Post
    Yes, but ofcourse people like ^ will also exist there, i.e like this statement in a classic thread has no purpose other than trolling.
    Rorcanna isn't a troll. He's just legitimately insane. Ignore him, and he'll go away on his own.

    The post joking about "MoP-sperms" was very funny. I don't know how he managed to take offense to it or respond in an aggressive way, but here ya go.

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    Except they're not putting together a half-assed private server being run out of a barn by 5 guys. They're making it to their standards, to work on their hardware/software infrastructure. Absolutely worlds apart.

    I'll put my money where my mouth is: if classic servers go live by 6/29, I will buy you a game on Steam or Battle.net of your choice.
    Classic goes live 2019, during Vanilla's 15th anniversary. It's all but a guarantee imo.
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  16. #56
    If you wanted senior software engineers, go play retail.





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    (Which is the correct answer to almost anything it seems, and my joke. Before someone thinks I was suggesting wow didn't have good programmers.)
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  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    With almost every single person who wants Vanilla servers making a thread about QoL must haves that have been implemented over the years on live, but insisting they are nothing at all like every single other thread asking for changes to Vanilla.. let us just say I'm going to enjoy the fallout from this shitslosion from afar.
    Yeah I find it funny with all the threads demanding QoL changes. It's almost as if they think they want vanilla, but really they don't.

  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Sturmbringe View Post
    It's much simpler than you think to build and maintain the Classic Realms.

    Nostalrius (all five -persons- of them) built their realm out of scratch in record time, and other Private Servers in the past ran out of people's barns on an Xeon X5450.

    For a $ multi-billion company located a couple of hours drive away from Silicon Valley in what is the World's Tech and Programmer Capital State, the so-called "challenge" of making a modern client such as M[...]OS and start up a few servers is laughably easy. It's not even a challenge at all.


    record time of 4 to 5 years is what it took them,lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturmbringe View Post
    Nostalrius (all five -persons- of them) built their realm out of scratch in record time, and other Private Servers in the past ran out of people's barns on an Xeon X5450.
    Stupid assumption. They don't care the final product quality. Of course they try to do their best, but once it runs they deliver.

    Blizzard must deliver a commercial level product. With an infrastructure that need to sustain hundreds time more connections, adapting the classic netcode to their new servers. They also have to make some design choice private servers just don't have to do, or at least don't suffer any consequences (if a private server choose to nerf a raid or double XP rate, nobody really cares).

    Blizzard is well known for being slow at delivering. But with a high level of polish. Classic will be no different.
    They took one year for this :



    Classic will take longer, not a single doubt. And that's not anti or pro classic. I really can't wait to play it again. Just a fact.
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    The thread no longer seems to be about Blizzard's hiring strategies so it will be closed. Kind of a thin reed to hang a thread on at that.

    For those of you who insist on continuing a discussion about when Classic will launch there's already a long-running thread about that. Also a reminder that it's entirely possible to discuss what's up ahead for Classic without bringing illegal & copyright-infringing stuff into the discussion.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...y-accepted-ETA
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