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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    the funniest, but also sad, parts are when some people think he would be conservative in modern times..
    It's comparable in many ways to the 'white guy friendly with the Indians' trope you saw back in the 90s; it's easier to deal with an unpleasant past by distancing yourself from it and refusing to imagine you're precisely the sort of person MLK would have been critical of.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Happy MLK day. Oh and Martin Luther King Jr. was a REPUBLICAN just like Frederick Douglass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerbleeder View Post
    Happy MLK day. Oh and Martin Luther King Jr. was a REPUBLICAN just like Frederick Douglass.
    "I don't think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses ... And I'm not inextricably bound to either party."
    - King Jr., Martin Luther (2000). Carson, Clayborne; Holloran, Peter; Luker, Ralph; Russell, Penny A., eds. The Papers of Martin Luther King, Jr: Symbol of the Movement, January 1957 – December 1958. University of California Press. p. 364. ISBN 978-0-520-22231-1.
    Don't let me get in the way of you blatantly lying, however.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker76 View Post
    Hmmm this smacks of dwelling on the gentrified version of King. Popular with privileged internet denizens. While also ignoring the many lawful and peaceful demonstrations over the past two years.
    The idea that King would oppose this generation’s most prominent struggle for racial justice is absurd, of course, but appreciate the recent New Yorker cover making the point explicitly that Kaep and Michael Bennett and the rest of those who kneel and march in service of justice today are firmly in keeping with King’s legacy. In his time, King was in many ways an American radical.

    He wasn’t murdered for being a moderate.
    Yes, I think he would have supported those who knelt at sporting events. He was murdered for being successful in his cause. And no, the radical one was the leader of the Black Panthers. I would not call Martin Luther King a radical. He would not have condoned any of the violence taken place at some BLM protests for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    the funniest, but also sad, parts are when some people think he would be conservative in modern times..
    He was a conservative. Democrats are still stuck in 20th century politics with everything being about skin color. Also he was a church man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Don't let me get in the way of you blatantly lying, however.
    In their families own words . . . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerbleeder View Post
    Happy MLK day. Oh and Martin Luther King Jr. was a REPUBLICAN just like Frederick Douglass.
    The southern strategy hadn't culminated yet. He would not belong to the GOP.
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerbleeder View Post
    He was a conservative. Democrats are still stuck in 20th century politics with everything being about skin color. Also he was a church man.

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    In their families own words . . . .

    [video=youtube;nXEwO7lM25g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXEwO7lM25g[video]
    He was anti-capitalist, a social democrat(which does not refer to US dems) or maybe even a socialist.

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    And to think the right wing mongs of today would be bitching about his protests blocking muh traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerbleeder View Post
    Happy MLK day. Oh and Martin Luther King Jr. was a REPUBLICAN just like Frederick Douglass.
    Some of the strongest advocates against his cause were Democrats. A higher percentage of Democrats in congress at the time, voted against the Civil Rights bill than Republicans did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    He was anti-capitalist, a social democrat(which does not refer to US dems) or maybe even a socialist.
    You are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    He was anti-capitalist, a social democrat(which does not refer to US dems) or maybe even a socialist.
    No he was not. How many videos do I have to link of his family. They were all Republicans. Open a history book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Some of the strongest advocates against his cause were Democrats. A higher percentage of Democrats in congress at the times, voted against the Civil Rights bill than Republicans did.
    And modern Republicans are Conservative as hell, so good luck with that argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerbleeder View Post
    No he was not. How many videos do I have to link of his family. They were all Republicans. Open a history book.
    You should read his own words, not his families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    You are wrong.
    This 'white washing' of MLK is hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerbleeder View Post
    In their families own words . . . .
    As opposed to -his- own words? Like how in 1956 he stated that he hadn't made a decision between Stevenson and Eisenhower but said "In the past I always voted the Democratic ticket", or how he said in his autobiography that he voted for Kennedy in 1960?

    The reality is that he was an independent, not a Republican. Again, stop lying.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerbleeder View Post
    He was a conservative. Democrats are still stuck in 20th century politics with everything being about skin color. Also he was a church man.

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    In their families own words . . . .

    My Grandpa was a Nazi. (he wasn't, he fought and killed Nazis, But "by his family's own words" he is) Your Logic is poor, I will take HIS words over those of his family.
    READ and be less Ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Some of the strongest advocates against his cause were Democrats. A higher percentage of Democrats in congress at the time, voted against the Civil Rights bill than Republicans did.
    Man it couldn't possibly because MLK lived during the era of the New Deal Coalition, could it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    And modern Republicans are Conservative as hell, so good luck with that argument.

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    You should read his own words, not his families.

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    This 'white washing' of MLK is hilarious
    I have. How you get he was a socialist is only in your own mind and those who think like you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Man it couldn't possibly because MLK lived during the era of the New Deal Coalition, could it?
    I am sure there were .....reasons. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    As opposed to -his- own words? Like how in 1956 he stated that he hadn't made a decision between Stevenson and Eisenhower but said "In the past I always voted the Democratic ticket", or how he said in his autobiography that he voted for Kennedy in 1960?

    The reality is that he was an independent, not a Republican. Again, stop lying.
    I agree with that.

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    Also, Id like to point out, it matters not one bit at all if he was Dem or Rep, it has 100% ZERO bearing on the weight of his words and actions. Stop trying to tie the man to your wagon twats.
    READ and be less Ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    The answer is no, he wouldn't necessarily be 'okay' with violent protests but he would probably advocate putting the blame where it belongs - on the system - rather than blaming black people for being 'ungrateful' or whatever the All Lives Matter crowd believes in these days.
    I hate it when 'the system' rolls through town destroying people's property!

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    On topic, happy Martin Luther King Jr. Day, he was a great man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    I have. How you get he was a socialist is only in your own mind and those who think like you do.

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    I am sure there were .....reasons. :P

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    I agree with that.
    I called him a social deemocrat, read more carefully next time.




    Not that I'd be wrong.

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