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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    I agree it kind of is victim blaming, but let's be real about what Mr Paul and his buddies in the GoP have been up to in 2017. It's almost like a movie how obviously against the public their legislations are.
    Just because you dislike/disagree with it doesn't make it against the public.

  2. #542
    Stupid people resort to violence, period.
    You can call it "passion" but it's really stupidity amplified by ignorance.

    Fuelled by propaganda.

    These people tend to not read for themselves or do any research, instead they just listen to what the TV tells them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    you're not so good in US history, I was referring to wasps

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_...xon_Protestant

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    ye, clear racism. plus general stupidity, you cant differentiate the NA and the USA.

    pathetic, once again, white people are native to the United States of America, to deny that requires some extreme level of stupidity
    Euuhm yea, my stupidity, for not acknowledging that people born on English soil are not English and from some nation that did not even exist yet. /faceplam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    It was about trees and a property line dispute. Not that uncommon. But the media of course, wants to blow it out of proportion and push a political narrative.
    Yea nobody deserves broken ribs over that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    I think you mean the alt right and their "run over people and shoot them in churches" rhetoric.
    I've not seen the Alt-right being Vocal about doing that, whereas I've seen Antifa be very Vocal about what I said.

    Nice try but swing and a miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    Yea nobody deserves broken ribs over that.
    Agreed, he should've just had the bylaw officers come out and fine the shit out of Rand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    1) need context
    2) he probably spoke about his supporters getting assaulted and fighting back (a bad thing?)
    3) need context
    4) do you think he really meant that?

    I mean, so far we have had
    1) rand paul attacked
    2) dozens of republicans getting shot, 1 of them almost died

    so its clear which side is attacking political opponents (:
    You mean like when a protester is yelling something out at Trump during a rally and gets escorted out of the building by security and gets sucker punched by a cowboy hat wearing wannabee badass on the way up the stairs? This is partisan politics and confirmation bias. You wouldn't be making a thread if it were a democrat in Rand Paul's place.

    And Trump is all talk. You're right. But the "In the good old days this doesn't happen because they used to treat them very, very rough" context was Trump again talking about being disrupted by protesters.

    And which side had someone killed on it? The left. Charlottesville. And it could have been more. See, people like you like to covertly feed the flames of division while pretending to be all about democracy. And you aren't. A true patriot knows that division is the greatest threat to the country. And knowing to put aside their petty emotions is necessary to bridge that chasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    Youre are missing simple truth, words =/ actions, words =/ violence, violence = violence.

    SO FAR we only had republican politicians getting attacked, I hope it stops here and no dems or more republicans get assaulted.

    on Rand Paul, the motive isnt clear so far, I dont know what you know to say it had nothing to do with politics with such confidence, share your sources please (:

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    The topic is more about the defacethenation attitude towards politics ( you clearly didnt read the TS)

    " if youre getting attacked by radicals why dont you think about changing your policy"
    Yet here you are throwing out the words "So you're for violence" based on people's "WORDS", but you'll give these guys a pass because it's just words. Don't be a hypocrite. And don't get mad about politics. The biggest problem the US has right now is people getting their panties in a twist over politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    I've not seen the Alt-right being Vocal about doing that, whereas I've seen Antifa be very Vocal about what I said.

    Nice try but swing and a miss.
    Confirmation bias.
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  9. #549
    Quote Originally Posted by X Amadeus X View Post
    I likely watch less tv than most. It’s not the media it’s delusional people constantly trying hard not to deal with problems and being angry the most at anybody who cares to do anything about it. Because living life being an adult is just too much of a bummer for some.

    Yes people really do hate and want to kill one another. Yes they’re serious, no they aren’t sorry about about it unless it’s to spare others feelings.

    It’s not going to get better and it’s not going to improve. We might all be in the U.S but we are not united or looking try to be.
    I agree with a lot of what you said. I too watch very little to no TV whatsoever. But the media is definitely fan the flames. It gets them viewers which gets them advertising money. And sadly, that is the most important things to these mega corporations.

    Delivering the truth in the News doesn't bring in the clicks or views. It's really a shame.

  10. #550
    Violence wasn't advocated. The "disgusting creature reporter" simply stated a very obvious truth - Don't be an asshole or use your position of authority to harm people, and people won't be inclined to want to harm you in return.

    The whole rest of the mock concern trolling, hyperbole and pearl-clutching in the OP is intellectually dishonest.
    "Lack of information on your part does not constitute bias on mine."


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    I'm pro violence, but I can't comprehend this level of potato. What exactly is being discussed here?

    We need more violence. Make people pay attention and stop doing dumb shit when they know someone's gonna fly off the handle and brutalize them. It's obvious coddling hasn't worked for shit, it's time to start leading by fear. Fear of getting your face pounded in because you wanted to say something stupid. Fear of getting straight up murdered for raping someone's friend. Bring it. Bring the violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    You're right. What makes it against the public is the effect their legislation will have on the common man.
    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Trying to make over 20million Americans lose health insurance isn't against the public?
    Giving fortune 500 companies tax breaks and making the middle class pay for it in the upcoming years isn't against the public? K then..
    Again, just because you disagree/dislike the policies doesn't make it against the public. These policies were part of Trump's campaign that got him elected so the public must have had some agreement with them. The public seems to be in agreement as Trump's poll numbers are high.

    Also 20 millions aren't losing health insurance. The only change to Obamacare so far is the removal of the individual mandate so rather than anyone involuntarily losing insurance, there are millions that are no longer FORCED to carry insurance they may not need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thwart View Post
    Again, just because you disagree/dislike the policies doesn't make it against the public. These policies were part of Trump's campaign that got him elected so the public must have had some agreement with them. The public seems to be in agreement as Trump's poll numbers are high.

    Also 20 millions aren't losing health insurance. The only change to Obamacare so far is the removal of the individual mandate so rather than anyone involuntarily losing insurance, there are millions that are no longer FORCED to carry insurance they may not need.
    Oh? I hope you are right, but what poll are you reading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    It's not about disagreeing. It's about actually understanding the long term effects the legislation will have. It's OK though, you're clearly not trying to have an actual debate and are trying to talk down to us. GL with that.

    Oh, and Trump's poll numbers are only high compared to Hitler's.
    No he is not. He is just stating what you disapprove of. And some Presidents have had much lower approval ratings than Trump has had.

  15. #555
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Oh? I hope you are right, but what poll are you reading?
    At the end of their first year, Trump had essentially same ratings as Obama.

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-approv...ma-same-761948

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    It's not about disagreeing. It's about actually understanding the long term effects the legislation will have. It's OK though, you're clearly not trying to have an actual debate and are trying to talk down to us. GL with that.

    Oh, and Trump's poll numbers are only high compared to Hitler's.
    I just generally trust the public to determine what is best for them rather than force things upon them like the left seems to do.

    Trump and Obama had essentially the same poll numbers after their first year.
    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-approv...ma-same-761948

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    I don't think you know how circles work.
    I'd bet on it being a freudian slip, Dmitro often appears to rely disingenuity when making claims and arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thwart View Post
    At the end of their first year, Trump had essentially same ratings as Obama.

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-approv...ma-same-761948

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    Very interesting. Yeah, people like to point out Trump's record low approval rating early in his Presidency, but it is the over all approval rating after each year that really counts. And there are several who had lower than his has ever hit. Thanks for the update! Good news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thwart View Post
    At the end of their first year, Trump had essentially same ratings as Obama.

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-approv...ma-same-761948

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    I just generally trust the public to determine what is best for them rather than force things upon them like the left seems to do.

    Trump and Obama had essentially the same poll numbers after their first year.
    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-approv...ma-same-761948
    Rasmussen has a pretty poor track record. Please use better sources.

    Pew is generally pretty accurate:


  19. #559
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    A single poll... not sure I’d hang my hat on that. And the public doesn’t decide what’s best for themselves, our elected officials make those calls. I get that you have a victim complex, but the right and the left both force shit on the American people. Get over it and actually pay attention to what your elected officials are doing.
    You're right! Our elected officials determine that and they are the ones that have passed the policies that are being complained about

  20. #560
    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Keep on drinking that Kool aid there Mr mod. The health insurance didn't pass cuz of severe public backlash and pressure, even after all the underhanded ways the GoP tried to rush and sneak it through. And trump has the lowest approval rating in our countries history LOL, but don't let facts get in your way or anything.
    Underhanded ways? You mean like how it was passed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    The thread isn’t really discussing policies anybody passed. Just the way the GoP and Trump have supported violence from their ranks the last couple years. Hell, one of their members of Congress physically assaulted a man for asking a question.

    This is false. They have essentially been defunding parts of it which is driving out insurers. You really need to pay better attention.

    In modern history? Like, since Nixon...
    One or your members has a picture of himself sexually assaulting a service member. There are fruitcakes even in Congress.

    So what parts have been "essentially defunded". I assume you are talking about the part that wasn't actually authorized by Obamacare but Obama decided to unilaterally decide that he could spend taxpayer money any way he wanted which is specifically against the Constitution.

    Nixon is as far back as you consider modern? Hell I was alive when Nixon was President.

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