[Movie] Star Wars VIII: The Last Jedi

[Jshadowhunter]

Okay, so this guy says the same thing you did, but how does he know this? Is there an article somewhere that says Disney put Rose into the movie for this reason? Did someone that work at Disney reveal this information? Someone that worked on the film that said this?

Are you suggesting that Hollywood would NEVER pander to appease somebody?

[tyrlaan]

Are you suggesting that Hollywood would NEVER pander to appease somebody?

No, I'm stating that presuming that's the case is different than knowing that's the case. Just because some random person says it does not mean it's true.

[josykay]

Doesn't China hate Star Wars in general, even without admiral purple hair, Finn, Rose or Rey?All movies went terrible there...

[Sunseeker]

Doesn't China hate Star Wars in general, even without admiral purple hair, Finn, Rose or Rey?All movies went terrible there...

Indeed they do! "Star Wars" didn't come over to them in the 70's, or 80's or...well, almost never until very recently. Only sketchy bootleg copies were available for a long time. There's no nostalgia for them. There aren't generations of kids raised on space soaps over there. To them Star Wars is just another sci-fi movie.

[Frontenac]

I would also be insulted if they cast a German to play a Slav character. They may be both in Europe but they're 2 different people.

As far as I know, a long time ago, there was no China in a galaxy far, far away. So why should the Chinese be incensed that a Vietnamese woman play a Resistance fighter named Rose Tico, a name that doesn't even sound Chinese?

[Jshadowhunter]

As far as I know, a long time ago, there was no China in a galaxy far, far away. So why should the Chinese be incensed that a Vietnamese woman play a Resistance fighter named Rose Tico, a name that doesn't even sound Chinese?

I think it's the fact that the movie seems to be saying that any Asian looks like Chinese, which made them angry.
And wasn't there something about Viet War?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

so i saw this today. apperntly some one "De-Feminized" the movie. rather odd.

""The Last Jedi De-Feminized Fanedit" cuts the vast majority of female characters out of the film."

"Phasma is finished after the first blow by Finn. (Women are naturally weaker than men, she isn't force-sensitive, and we know nothing about any exo-skeleton in her suit)"

" Luke doesn't Force Hologram his way into the ending -- he actually shows up to save the day, only to die from the first shot from a walker. "

this seems like a gem.

http://www.dorkly.com/post/85800/sta...-edit-no-women

[tyrlaan]

I think it's the fact that the movie seems to be saying that any Asian looks like Chinese, which made them angry.

When does the movie say this?

[Frontenac]

This guy got it right. That is exactly what I think about the rabids...

[Lorgar Aurelian]

This guy got it right. That is exactly what I think about the rabids...

huh i didn't know there were 9 movie planned originally shame we never got the last 3.

[Aurrora]

so i saw this today. apperntly some one "De-Feminized" the movie. rather odd.

""The Last Jedi De-Feminized Fanedit" cuts the vast majority of female characters out of the film."

"Phasma is finished after the first blow by Finn. (Women are naturally weaker than men, she isn't force-sensitive, and we know nothing about any exo-skeleton in her suit)"

" Luke doesn't Force Hologram his way into the ending -- he actually shows up to save the day, only to die from the first shot from a walker. "

this seems like a gem.

http://www.dorkly.com/post/85800/sta...-edit-no-women

Sounds like an elaborate troll to trigger people, that was Rian Johnson's take on it at least.

[Jastall]

I mean the article you linked gives reasons why the author believes the movie failed to make much money and none of it is about diversity or any of that. His explanations actually sound quite well-reasoned. Interesting article.

They reject your reality and replace it with political bias.

[Sunseeker]

I think it's the fact that the movie seems to be saying that any Asian looks like Chinese, which made them angry.
And wasn't there something about Viet War?

Wat? Are we watching the same movie?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Sounds like an elaborate troll to trigger people, that was Rian Johnson's take on it at least.

That seems like a lot of work just to troll people.

[Mormolyce]

I forgot that gem: before the First Order storms the secret base on Non-Hoth, the rebels are manning trenches. Trenches. That is so frigging ridiculous.

That falls under "suspension of disbelief necessary because Star Wars uses WWI/WWII movies as the reference for its battle scenes", like how bombers literally drop bombs vertically and why starfighters move like airplanes.

If you want to talk about ridiculous stuff in that battle, how about the fact that the Resistance gets into some rickety old speeders... which are UNARMED, and charge the lines of walkers in order to slow down the cannon (because only the cannon can get through that metal door because the writer said so). Many of them die in the attack, but just as they get within range of the cannon they break off. Finn charges the cannon and everyone is shocked that he's about to do a suicide run on the cannon.

WHAT ELSE WERE THEY PLANNING TO DO? They had no weapons, obviously the only reason for that battle at all is to ram the Imperial forces. Turns out they were too late anyway and the cannon breaks down the door, so they limp back to base having taken a bunch of losses for literally no reason. They didn't even slow it down, it literally fired as soon as it was charged, if they'd stayed in the base playing poker instead the result would've been exactly the same and heaps of Resistance pilots wouldn't have died.

Movie logic aside, if they were planning to abandon the lead rebel ship anyway and they knew the big ol bad guys ship couldn't hit their smaller ships they were escaping on, why didn't they just try the hyperspace kamikaze attack right away instead of waiting for the neo-space nazis to pick off most of their individual ships during the retreat? I am going with the assumption it was just a pulled out of ass last minuet idea.

And the fuck was the point of the Luke death fake out, only for him to kick the bucket anyway?

Or all of the ships that perished beforehand, eg the frigate.

[Jshadowhunter]

Wat? Are we watching the same movie?

By Viet War I mean, don't the Chinese hate Viets for that reason or something?

[Mormolyce]

so i saw this today. apperntly some one "De-Feminized" the movie. rather odd.

""The Last Jedi De-Feminized Fanedit" cuts the vast majority of female characters out of the film."

"Phasma is finished after the first blow by Finn. (Women are naturally weaker than men, she isn't force-sensitive, and we know nothing about any exo-skeleton in her suit)"

" Luke doesn't Force Hologram his way into the ending -- he actually shows up to save the day, only to die from the first shot from a walker. "

this seems like a gem.

http://www.dorkly.com/post/85800/sta...-edit-no-women

Can't wait for the MRA edit of Thelma and Louise lol.

[Aurrora]

That falls under "suspension of disbelief necessary because Star Wars uses WWI/WWII movies as the reference for its battle scenes", like how bombers literally drop bombs vertically and why starfighters move like airplanes.

If you want to talk about ridiculous stuff in that battle, how about the fact that the Resistance gets into some rickety old speeders... which are UNARMED

Lining up in front of it with small arms when you're facing war machines that are 100 meters tall is seriously stupid. It would be one thing if they had a legitimate reason to be manning the trenches like repelling ground troops but as it is their actions ran counter to the plan of hiding behind the door.

They were armed, the outrigger side had blaster cannons mounted to it, you can see them melt away as Finn flies up the beam.

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That seems like a lot of work just to troll people.

I dunno, it got news articles about it by all the usual suspects.

[TheBeardedOne]

There were no force fields in TLJ. There was that yuge vertical blast door in the mountain which could be breached only horisontally with a very powerful weapon because that's what the door was designed for. So they had such a weapon sadly it wasn't mountable on a bomber. And rebels have destroyed the yuge space destroyer with similar weapons in the beginning of the movie. Apparently it was one of a kind.

So trenches again.



Force Fields require lots of energy you don't run them hot unless they are needed. Hence the Poe tactics, he was a lone starfighter trying to "negotiate" and then he caught them by surprise, remember the SPEED BOOST?

Why would you not blow him away the first second he showed up. It is a fucking stupidly morornic scene to appease the braindead marvel crowd.

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So in TFA the resistance could hyperspace into a planets atmosphere but in TLJ the First Order couldn't hyperspace into empty space.....the first order juat looks like a joke.

[tyrlaan]

By Viet War I mean, don't the Chinese hate Viets for that reason or something?

So to be clear, you've thus far: passed off as fact what some random dude on the internet told you in a Youtube video, followed it up with (presumably) your own comment as if it's fact but with no apparent evidence to back it up, and now the core of your argument is based on a murky understanding of history that you kinda sorta think maybe happened... or something.

Why would you not blow him away the first second he showed up. It is a fucking stupidly morornic scene to appease the braindead marvel crowd.

Apparently it's really difficult to express one's opinion of a movie without insulting other people. I like how you dragged a different pool of people in to get your dig.

Sorry you don't like Marvel movies but maybe figure out how to handle the concept that some people don't like the same things.