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    Does WW benefit from Nightborne racial?

    The 1% seems ideal for casters obviously, but how are the racials impacting WW?

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    Reckon Highmountain has much better racials on Horde Side... superior tanking, obviously... with 1% Versatility and damage reduction off stamina. And the Bullrush Charge compliments monk's roll abilities.

    Nightborne really offers zero benefits to a melee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedius View Post
    Reckon Highmountain has much better racials on Horde Side... superior tanking, obviously... with 1% Versatility and damage reduction off stamina. And the Bullrush Charge compliments monk's roll abilities.

    Nightborne really offers zero benefits to a melee.
    Pretty much this. Nightborne appearing to be a caster only race if you care about racials. Too bad they can't be Paladins, that AoE snare racial would be pretty nice for Pallies.


    HM is looking like it'll have the best racials for tanking and for M+ (AoE stun racial which will be much rarer in BfA).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saverem View Post
    Pretty much this. Nightborne appearing to be a caster only race if you care about racials. Too bad they can't be Paladins, that AoE snare racial would be pretty nice for Pallies.


    HM is looking like it'll have the best racials for tanking and for M+ (AoE stun racial which will be much rarer in BfA).
    I think Nightborne would do OK as rogue. The racial should apply to poison damage on assa, and shadow damage on sub. Obviously not better than the other races but better than 0. NB racials are probably the most disappointing, but they're also the easiest race to unlock atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackblade View Post
    I think Nightborne would do OK as rogue. The racial should apply to poison damage on assa, and shadow damage on sub. Obviously not better than the other races but better than 0. NB racials are probably the most disappointing, but they're also the easiest race to unlock atm.
    Both Horde and Alliance have a allied races with good and shit racials. Alliance has VELFs with good racials and LF Draenei with shit racials. Horde has HM Tauren with good racials and NB I wouldn't say has shit racials, they're still very good for casters, but for melee they are definitely sub par.
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    Has anyone actually gone HM for their Monk? I'm tempted to do it. I'm Orc at the moment but fancy a change. WAs going go attempt HM or NB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yhcti View Post
    Has anyone actually gone HM for their Monk? I'm tempted to do it. I'm Orc at the moment but fancy a change. WAs going go attempt HM or NB.
    I have. It definitely gets some getting used to size-wise. I had to change my mount to a low-riding mount so I can be low enough to get into doorways in Dalaran without having to dismount or get stuck on them.

    The Bull Rush racial is awesome though. Used it on several raid fights for that short distance speed boost. Used it a few times on M+, but that distance you tavel makes it tricky to use correctly as a tank, but I can still see it being great for kiting mobs (can rush through the pack, knocking them all down and then just keep running through to kite).

    The damage reduction racial is 100% worthless. As a tank with 965 ilvl, I only block 3k damage with it....3k... Literally nothing when you account for hits doing millions of damage.

    The 1% vers is pretty good though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saverem View Post
    I have. It definitely gets some getting used to size-wise. I had to change my mount to a low-riding mount so I can be low enough to get into doorways in Dalaran without having to dismount or get stuck on them.

    The Bull Rush racial is awesome though. Used it on several raid fights for that short distance speed boost. Used it a few times on M+, but that distance you tavel makes it tricky to use correctly as a tank, but I can still see it being great for kiting mobs (can rush through the pack, knocking them all down and then just keep running through to kite).

    The damage reduction racial is 100% worthless. As a tank with 965 ilvl, I only block 3k damage with it....3k... Literally nothing when you account for hits doing millions of damage.

    The 1% vers is pretty good though.
    appreciate the response thanks! an dyeah the racial damage wise are terrible.. my NB hunter does what.. 180k with the aoe, it's pretty pathetic in comparison to the troll berserking or orc blood fury

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    I considered changing my tauren monk into HM tauren.
    But I like my thunderstomp, and 2% increase to critical damage.
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    I went Nightborne Male for aesthetic purposes, the racials are terrible (the aoe is like 170k damage, it's pathetic). I'd go HM but I don't fancy being a massive Tauren having to dismount to get thorugh doors all the time lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yhcti View Post
    I went Nightborne Male for aesthetic purposes
    So wrinkly old soyboys are the aesthetics you go for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saverem View Post
    So wrinkly old soyboys are the aesthetics you go for?
    I call them Betty Spaghettis. Nightborne males are disgraceful. Totally hideous, unlike their youthful and more fleshy female counterparts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucrece View Post
    I call them Betty Spaghettis. Nightborne males are disgraceful. Totally hideous, unlike their youthful and more fleshy female counterparts.
    Yeah, if I were ever to roll one, I'd def go female. The males all look like they're the female's granpappy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saverem View Post
    So wrinkly old soyboys are the aesthetics you go for?
    Actually looks pretty cool in his mog. I do have the female on my hunter though and really like that. though I guess a blood elf would've been a better choice or a Troll, since im survival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saverem View Post
    HM is looking like it'll have the best racials for tanking and for M+ (AoE stun racial which will be much rarer in BfA).
    Amusingly, all the nerfs to AoE stuns with BFA is kind of a War Stomp stealth buff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yhcti View Post
    Has anyone actually gone HM for their Monk? I'm tempted to do it. I'm Orc at the moment but fancy a change. WAs going go attempt HM or NB.
    Did it on Warrior, zero regrets. Can't bring myself to change the Monk. Panda forever.

    I am leveling a HM Monk for the heritage armor, and can confirm HM Monks look fantastic.

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    I find it really weird that Nightborne is the only race in the game that offers no benefit at all for melee. they could easily change the racial to "your abilities deal X amount of extra damage as arcane" or something like that.

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    I think the only reason, one would play a Nightborne Monk, would be to RP a pissy vitner (BM obviously), who'd run around and smash people with kegs of arcwine, all while yelling at them about how useless they are at making wine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syld View Post
    I find it really weird that Nightborne is the only race in the game that offers no benefit at all for melee. they could easily change the racial to "your abilities deal X amount of extra damage as arcane" or something like that.
    Blizzard adressed this a few weeks ago and said "Yeah sure, we'll look into it" and then nothing.

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    I've got a HM monk I'm currently leveling, really loving it so far. But this is coming from someone who already has a 110 tauren, orc and pandaren monk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedius View Post
    Reckon Highmountain has much better racials on Horde Side... superior tanking, obviously... with 1% Versatility and damage reduction off stamina. And the Bullrush Charge compliments monk's roll abilities.

    Nightborne really offers zero benefits to a melee.
    It's not +1% to spells, it's +1% to magic damage, so any nature damage dealt by monks are affected for example.

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    racials are negligible at most but its better for casters so maybe heal spec but not much for WW spec maybe for chi burst/wave and jade lightening

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