22 Year old stabbed in library

[AwkwardSquirtle]

But I thought in the police debate we all agreed that guns don't work against knives and that's why American police kill suspects instead of simply arresting them.

[cubby]

If only we had tougher laws on knives, then this young woman would still be alive.

Lol, your strawman arguments are so adorable.

[oplawlz]

And it takes 1 person with a plane to do way worst, but neither the plane nor the car is made for the sole purpose of killing. But yeah keep moving that goal post. I will never understand why anyone would object to make it illegal for mentally disturb and/or violent individuals to purchase guns. That is all we are asking for with gun controls.

I don't have an issue with it, in fact I have advocated stronger gun control for years. I just don't try to pretend that they're going to make all that much difference in our particular country. Kids aren't going to be safe in schools until politicians decide that the cost of implementing proper security isn't greater than the value of the lives of said kids.

[Celista]

See no gun involved and suddenly you dont have 17 dead people but just one dead person.

One guy killed three men on the Max here in Portland recently. One had military training.

[Dolus]

There have been plenty of mass stabbings. More people die to knives than they do "assault rifles."


http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/...l-high-school/


http://abcnews.go.com/US/ohio-state-...ry?id=43821371


https://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...ng-4420907.php


https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/18/us/un...-inspired-fbi/

[Sage89]

Aww that was really sad

[kasuke06]

so when's the ban all knives rhetoric starting?

[Kaleredar]

When a gun kills someone we blame guns being available, when a knife kills people its ''at least is wasn't a gun''. Mental health is the main issue, there are many tools which become weapons.

That comes off as simple deflection, seeing as conservatives aren't trying to do anything about any of those issues.

[announced]

we should simply ban all assault knives, that will surely solve this horrible tragedy from ever occurring again.

[Trifle]

There have been plenty of mass stabbings. More people die to knives than they do "assault rifles."


http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/...l-high-school/


http://abcnews.go.com/US/ohio-state-...ry?id=43821371


https://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...ng-4420907.php


https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/18/us/un...-inspired-fbi/

Note that in none of those mass stabbings did any of the victims die (at the time of reporting, at least). It's a lot harder to kill someone with a knife than a gun.

[Najnaj]

If only we had tougher laws on knives, then this young woman would still be alive.

Crazy guy with knife. 1 person dead.

Crazy guy with semi automatic rifle. 10 - 50 people dead.

[Dolus]

Note that in none of those mass stabbings did any of the victims die (at the time of reporting, at least). It's a lot harder to kill someone with a knife than a gun.

There have been mass shootings as well where no one died, but many were injured or the shooter simply missed.

Of the 310 million firearms in the United States, an estimated “0.0035%” of them were used to commit murder in 2016.
Number of homicide deaths via firearms in 2016: 11,004

There isn't a mass gun violence problem.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ta-table-4.xls

Schools are safer than they were in the 90s, and school shootings are not more common than they used to be, researchers say
https://news.northeastern.edu/2018/0...searcher-says/

[Trifle]

There have been mass shootings as well where no one died, but many were injured or the shooter simply missed.

Of the 310 million firearms in the United States, an estimated “0.0035%” of them were used to commit murder in 2016.
Number of homicide deaths via firearms in 2016: 11,004

There isn't a mass gun violence problem.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ta-table-4.xls

Schools are safer than they were in the 90s, and school shootings are not more common than they used to be, researchers say
https://news.northeastern.edu/2018/0...searcher-says/

I'm not really sure what the point of your post is. Your own link (the FBI one) shows that guns are the leading weapon in homicides... 11k in 2016 vs 1.6k for knives.

I also don't see the point of just focusing on school shootings and saying "Well they're still rare, guns are fine !". The aim should be to reduce incidence of ALL mass shootings. From your last link, "In research publishing later this year, Fox and doctoral student Emma Fridel found that on average, mass murders occur between 20 and 30 times per year, and about one of those incidents on average takes place at a school."

20 - 30 times is a huge number (and the attached graph actually makes it look like 25 - 35) and the vast majority of these mass murders are shootings. The aim should be to reduce this number, not to do nothing.

[Rooflesstoofless]

If only we had tougher laws on knives, then this young woman would still be alive.

Taking a life with a knife is no small task, at all. You don't have much first hand knowledge with either if you're trying to compare the two.