I reckon the contention lies in the wording. No-GO zones implies that governmental bodies have lost power over them, thus painting as some sort of lawless areas. While that is hard to believe, there are certainly neighborhoods in Europe where you are advised not to go in to. Coincidently - or not, depending on your own narrative - these areas tend to have mostly immigrant based populations.
Wendt said that in early 2017 not 2018 and those zones are not a product of mass immigration.
( https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschl...utschland.html )
The problem here are family clans who are in open conflict with other clans. Those people are living here for 10 years and more.
And this isn't a recent problem.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN1ES16J
http://www.newsweek.com/migrants-eur...y-study-770105
http://www.dw.com/en/german-city-of-...ees/a-42309934
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42557828
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...-refugee-crime
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1...fugee-shelters
Need I link more?
NO GO zones appear in a lot of countries. The US has them in a pretty staggering amount. It is usually gang related, poor related, and black market related. Race and immigration status sometimes play a role, but the biggest factors are the above 3. There are places no one would go in a lot of major US cities and a lot of places people of certain races wouldn't go in Rural communities with no police force at all besides maybe a County Sheriff or State Trooper.
This stuff happens and will until we either come down super hard some how or find a way to eliminate the money making potential these types of communities have for the Black market. It is socio-economics and not just an immigration issue. The problem people have with this and a lot of other issues is we want it to be because of a single thing, so we can wrap our heads around it, and easily put it into a box. The issues are usually more complex and mulit-layered. I'm sure there are places in Germany you wouldn't go as person of a certain type of race.
Exactly that. I mean, back when my grandparents came to germany as guest workers, they immediately worked both and both of them had german friends and spoke the language well. My Mother and one of uncles both already culturally assimilated into german culture. But then again, they are turks so it may be harder to compare as Turkey is culturally rather eastern, more so in the past, when kemalism had a stronger influence on society. I still think that we need immigration and integration that aims to turn foreigners into cultural germans. This is also what many people expect in germany. Many don't care if someone has a foreign heritage as long as they integrate into german culture and society.
I really feel like the west currently sucks more in integration than ever before, which may be because of the flaws of multiculturalism which is more an excuse that immigrants don't owe their guest country anything and the broader society owes them. I mean, it worked out in the USA in the past. People came there from all ower the world and in a short matter of time, they were americans.
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So, Mass Immigration is a problem that needs to be solve? Well, Germany is proper done in then, because they have a quota to meet and they need to accept millions more
To the German Citizens, your nation lasted for many years came back from two world wars, can it survive this? I doubt it.
R.I.P.
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This problem has no easy solution. Which means it will likely persist long into the foreseeable future. Similar problems in the USA have persisted for many decades with no end in sight and these appear to be far worse. That's what she has created.
Parts of Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, LA, Oakland, Philadelphia - pretty much every major city in one capacity or another - are "no-go" zones where people are afraid to go, where people don't want to move to, and where police may skip over. Not sure what your point is? Certainly not all of Germany is a utopia, and if there are parts of her country that are crime-ridden for whatever reason, then it's her job to help make them safe.
I get what you're trying to do, but honestly, it's disingenuous.
Not going to change when we have politicians in power that claim that if you ride the subway in the capital then you're x, when peoples idea of who is x is based on ethnicity. The only way it will change is through the far right, the rest of the politicians will continue adding fuel to the fire instead of extinguishing it. Sadly.
So no endus no elba and no mall security
Oh snap reallity again bashing hard
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You're tilting at windmills. I've never been on board the "bash the immigrant" wagon. I was asking because I knew a big number of both ethnicities moved there and was honestly wondering how they both fared since I've heard differing views on, again, both groups. Some good, most of it derogatory.
You are Swedish....
Sweden took in tons of refugees from south America (especially Chile) in the 70s when they had military juntas in most countries there. There were no issues with integration. We also took a ton of Persians after the revolution in Iran, again with no issues what so ever.
It is almost like these stupid immigrants we get today do not want to integrate just because of a little hate crime and a few fire bombs...so silly.