Gold will be useless

[schwarzkopf]

If people bothered to get FRIENDS in the game,

Then you could piss them off no end by asking them 10 times to run the same thing over and then repeat for each quest - and over again to just level up an alt.

Sure thing... that's what friends are for.

[MasterHamster]

Gold has been close to useless for years now with the death of professions, so I don't really see the particular issue.

[Shcepa]

Really an executive decision to allow CoD in the bnet launcher

[Marrilaife]

What returned to normal? The token on eu is at 350k gold atm.

It was already at this mark for a month before COD was added.

ps: and ppl pay that 7 euros to blizz instead some chinese gold seller. they killed the gold selling market completely with a one shot. clevr bastards.

As the old saying goes "if you can't beat them, join them". People always tried to buy gold and boosts because they had the irl money and wanted the shortcut. Cutting down on illegal competition not only leaves more profit on the table for Blizzard, but also cuts time wasted on tickets from people who got hacked / scammed by the illegal goldsellers / boosters. It's a double win for them. And tbh for people who were buying gold it's also better option because they don't risk their account getting banned or getting scammed of their money by the "goldseller".

i bet that in a month token will be on stable 400k and the bump of 50k will be induced exackly because of CoD. next bump will be connected with launch - my bet is 500k around 1-2 months post launch .

and how do you know it's "exactly because of COD"? Tokens go up in price steadily over time because people keep earning gold and it adds up. Moreover, at the current state of expansion there's little incentive to buy gold - there's no new content to get boosted through, no new rare and expensive items added (mounts, transmogs), so why would anyone buy gold now instead of in BFA where they will need it for new content?

I do expect tokens hike in price around BFA launch, because not everyone preorders, some people will want to buy expac when it launches, also some people are unsubbed now but will want to buy game time when there's new content. Betting the token will go up is as sure as betting Blizzard won't stop releasing expansions for WOW - both are in their financial interest. People wouldn't want to see they're getting less gold now for their 20$ than half a year ago - they want to get more. They don't want to feel "the deal has became worse over time".

When will the token reach the coveted "1 million gold per" depends on the rate BFA keeps churning gold to people, which I don't know, but I know they don't want people to sit and farm old content, they want people to farm new content, so it will be more lucrative than Legion content, so prepare for WQ gold and other rewards to go up rather than down or stay the same.

In few expansions from now even the 5 mil dino will be "cheap" same as wotlk mammoth was expensive back in wotlk but very affordable now.

[MyndZero]

didn't go into the millions for destiny, so no, nothing's going to change, your over-reacting.

[Yelyto]

yesyesyesyes

[BobAwesome]

Need a Gold squish. Numbers are getting too big.

[Sylvaeres]

Then you could piss them off no end by asking them 10 times to run the same thing over and then repeat for each quest - and over again to just level up an alt.

Sure thing... that's what friends are for.

You clearly don't have many friends.

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Gold has been close to useless for years now with the death of professions, so I don't really see the particular issue.

"professions are dead, gold is useless"

A) coming from someone who will break 100m earnings within 3-6 months of BFA, I can tell you that professions are far from dead, especially on high pop servers

B) there's more use for gold now than there ever has. You're clearly proving my earlier point

[schwarzkopf]

You clearly don't have many friends.

SO - I make the factual observation that BfA professions will be far less complex than Legion professions.

And you come to that whacky conclusion?

[Queen of Hamsters]

You clearly don't have many friends.

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"professions are dead, gold is useless"

A) coming from someone who will break 100m earnings within 3-6 months of BFA, I can tell you that professions are far from dead, especially on high pop servers

B) there's more use for gold now than there ever has. You're clearly proving my earlier point

Indeed.

People proclaiming that gold is useless, are clearly ignorant. People proclaiming that "numbers are getting too big!!!", are clearly lacking in the upstairs department... Basic math and reading numbers is hard!! QQ

In fact, I'd recommend anyone whom felt that Legion's professions were too convoluted and needlessly time consuming, should really pick things up again in BfA.

[Sylvaeres]

SO - I make the factual observation that BfA professions will be far less complex than Legion professions.

And you come to that whacky conclusion?

Amusing. I made a comment in context to what you were saying, and you try to deflect. Also, you act as if there isn't a group finder and a random dungeon finder that you can que specifically for what you need in it.

[fairbanks1]

Gold is useless from WOTLK, so that's not a big deal

[Niwes]

As the old saying goes "if you can't beat them, join them". People always tried to buy gold and boosts because they had the irl money and wanted the shortcut. Cutting down on illegal competition not only leaves more profit on the table for Blizzard, but also cuts time wasted on tickets from people who got hacked / scammed by the illegal goldsellers / boosters. It's a double win for them. And tbh for people who were buying gold it's also better option because they don't risk their account getting banned or getting scammed of their money by the "goldseller".

exactly that.

all of that, combined with „getting 7 euros for every token ever passed the AH, while absolutelly do nothing“ is pure porn, business wise. the one that had that idea is now in the hall of fame of bobby kottick.

[nodq]

So CoD is coming and token prices are going to be over million. Soon everyone will have 2m+ gold for 40euros and flasks etc will cost 10x they did during the start of expansion. So we who will NOT use real money to buy wow gold are going to be in trouble.

What will Blizzard do when 90% of playerbase are going to have 3m+ gold and everything will be expensive?

Why do you think that Tokens, no matter what they cost are injecting new gold into the eco system of WoW? it doesn't matter if a token costs 1 mill gold or 100.000. The Gold is there already, it just changes the owner. You can not re-sell tokens that were bought with gold. https://wowtoken.info/

So your statement, that "everyone" will have 2mill+ gold is not even possible.

[Dastreus]

Why ARE tokens so much more on EU servers, anyway???

[Shakou]

So CoD is coming and token prices are going to be over million. Soon everyone will have 2m+ gold for 40euros and flasks etc will cost 10x they did during the start of expansion. So we who will NOT use real money to buy wow gold are going to be in trouble.

What will Blizzard do when 90% of playerbase are going to have 3m+ gold and everything will be expensive?

If everyone has tons of gold and everything is expensive, that's entirely the fault of the community for being complete idiots that pretend their wow gold has actual value and try to charge people dumb as fuck prices for shit that took them seconds to make or farm.

WOW Economy is proof that humanity would fall into madness and chaos without strong governments, it's just absurd. Not only would most of humanity starve to death if the real world economy operated like wow, most of humanity would starve them self to death even though they have a huge surplus of sardines in their bank vault.

People on my server are trying to sell everything they got that they don't need, so they put up garbage like drums of fury for like 500-1k gold a pop. Absolutely ridiculous I'd sooner whip out my dick in public and piss in your face than buy your shitty auction house items. Truly those drums, while super convenient, are not even worth as much as legion grey items. You could literally just learn skinning and leatherworking and go out to MOP and learn to make those stupid drums for yourself in a matter of minutes with extremely little effort and maybe if you farm a good couple hours a few nights a week you could completely flood the market with them for months until the loser trying to sell a five stack for 10k /wrists.

The shit I see on the Auction House on a daily basis is the most fucked up shit it's like 90% of people that play the Auction House are really trying hard to fuck other people over but they are legitimately retarded. There is no scarcity in wow outside of extremely rare items, and there are not remotely enough new players that are gonna buy your bullshit.

Y'all do it to your selves. You overfarm (or underfarm), then you overprice the shit that you farm that isn't hard to come by, then you have a shit ton of crap you farmed that you cannot sell and that nobody wants or a small amount of relative crap that people might want on a very rare occasion but certainly aren't up to paying your ridiculous prices for it since they know how easy to get the thing is... and the thing is you people sit on these shitty as fuck items that nobody even wants as if it's value will somehow increase later. That's not how WOW works.

With the sole exception of sought after boes for xmogging and rare mounts nothing in this video game becomes worth more as time goes by. NONE OF IT.

There's a dumbass on my server that apparently bought the entire market on normal mode boe epic plate belts from Nighthold on one lower pop server I play on and is trying to sell them all for over 250k a pop...that people that do this are flat out shit for brains morons.

I have at nearly every class level to 110, most of them very well geared, 2 that I could probably push in 3v3 for at least duelist title on, 4 that have all legendaries (albeit, this is in no small part due to vendor tokens) and a few that are not far behind. I have collected all challenge appearances on 6 different characters and have at least 1 on every class...only 2 classes I haven't leveled are priest and shaman and I just got my druid level'd up recently.

Why do I mention all this?

I mention this because somewhere on every server there's even dumber people that spend more time farming their precious gold than 2-bit slacking shitlord spent farming pure crap that's not really valuable to sell for insane amounts to some dumbass that doesn't think before doing anything, and this is what wrecks the economy more than anything.

I mention this because my account even if I deleted half my characters is 100% self sustainable, I have all professions that are beneficial to raiding throughout the expansion and a tailor (aka the real money makers) I can play any role to a very high degree, I am pretty casual with WOW these days but if I just grind it out a bit a couple days a week I can easily make hundreds of thousands of gold a week without selling ANYTHING at all on the auction house, without selling runs....nadda zip zilch none, gold which very quickly accumulates into millions.

The economy in the game is the way that it is 100% because other players made it that way and they keep it that way. The truth is the only valuable thing is your time and all of the gold and items you accumulated are worthless.

If players were smart they would focus on driving dumbasses like I mentioned here that try to sell shitty BOE's you will easily replace with almost anything else out of business, how? Simple. Go outside and do something else, or not...do the opposite and no life the game but just don't be a lazy schmuck and never buy anything on the AH unless it's decently priced and saving you time to buy it from someone else.

If people had the slightest fucking clue about the AH and how to, it would not even matter than inflation is so severe. But mark my words, in BFA you're gonna see some ridiculous shit at launch. People are going to put up the shittiest crafting materials and greens and crap they got questing on the AH for insane prices, and some idiot is actually going to buy them.

Circle of life.

[nodq]

...
Circle of life.

Of course it is not hard to farm gold. But that is not the point why many don't do it. Most of the players don't WANT to, because it is tedious and boring af. And by just raiding progress, playing BGs or doing mythic+ on a regular basis you do not gain that much money if we are honest here.

[Spotnick]

I think some people really have issues understanding how the token works.. I order to have your token giving 2M gold, it would mean some people are BUYING them for 2M gold.

No gold is created in game via tokens. It's just an exchange between 2 accounts and Blizzard makes 5$ out of it.. that's it.


So that is not what would cause inflation in WOW, plus, I have serious doubts so many people are buying gold with tokens, I mean, gold is so easy to make right now with Order Halls, you even have a phone app to help you make gold.

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Why ARE tokens so much more on EU servers, anyway???

Because less people are buying gold in the EU.

Supply and demand, basic rules.. more people buy stuff, price goes down.

[Marrilaife]

Why ARE tokens so much more on EU servers, anyway???

They're not "more on EU servers", they're just "cheaper on US servers", EU is more in line with other markets like Korea, Taiwan and mainland China. On US they're cheaper... well cuz supposedly US people buy more gold (they don't have time to farm, they have more disposable income, you name it).

People on my server are trying to sell everything they got that they don't need, so they put up garbage like drums of fury for like 500-1k gold a pop. Absolutely ridiculous I'd sooner whip out my dick in public and piss in your face than buy your shitty auction house items. Truly those drums, while super convenient, are not even worth as much as legion grey items. You could literally just learn skinning and leatherworking and go out to MOP and learn to make those stupid drums for yourself in a matter of minutes with extremely little effort and maybe if you farm a good couple hours a few nights a week you could completely flood the market with them for months until the loser trying to sell a five stack for 10k /wrists.

The shit I see on the Auction House on a daily basis is the most fucked up shit it's like 90% of people that play the Auction House are really trying hard to fuck other people over but they are legitimately retarded. There is no scarcity in wow outside of extremely rare items, and there are not remotely enough new players that are gonna buy your bullshit.

Best thing is if you decide to post your shit (drums, glyphs, tailored shirts, gems, w/e) for reasonable prices you get angry whispers or mails because the "goldmaking" community believes "it's a sin to undercut for more than 1 copper", I've even seen a youtuber make a video trying to claim so. So if a retard posted a piece of crap for 1 million don't you dare to post it for 10 gold even if you think that's what's it worth at best.

And I'm not talking about items that are rare and highly sought, I'm talking about items you can buy from vendors at endless quantities or produce yourself from easily obtainable mats (and not barred behind hard to obtain recipes).

The general idea among "goldmaking youtubers" is "everything will eventually sell when a moron stumbles over it", I think I've seen one sensible guy who said I'll rather sell more stuff faster as long as I'm making profit, than wait ages for my one golden opportunity sale.

[kamuimac]

Why ARE tokens so much more on EU servers, anyway???

because russia and post soviet republics