Man faces deportation after routine delivery

[Freighter]

I do take issue. The system is slow and punishes otherwise law abiding people. And I didnt say he had the right to be here, I said its unfortunate and criticized the system. He broke a law but the law is broken.

Did you even check what you responded to and do you remember what you posted? You were pretty much saying it's wrong to not let him stay because he has family there.

[Vatrilian]

My defense is remaining a sanctuary city because I don't feel it appropriate or humane for my local government to assist the stasi.

The Stasi existed to prevent you from leaving the country, a consequence of the big government you so desperately support. It is humane to Americans if you commit a crime to be prosecuted according to the law of the land and that requires if you catch an alien rapist or murderer not to release him or her into general society based on the insane premise that is is humane.
I would also take time to think about what the Stasi was and did. Comparing Immigration enforcement to an organization responsible for killing hundred of thousands of east Germans is an ignorant and stupid statement.

[Zumacrume]

Seems silly to deport someone who pays taxes and social security but cannot claim benefits - it's a win-win for the federal budget. But the deficit is none of my business...

[Gutpile]

The stasi were the East German police, lol.

If you're going to toss out talking points at least get the historicity right.

You used the term gestapo in this very thread, dummy.

[PACOX]

New leadership says they want to enforce the immigration laws that are currently on the books, so he has to go.

New leadership is made up of a bunch of dudes who have no problem hiring illegal immigrants when convenient. Even the First Lady was once "illegal"

[Elegiac]

You used the term gestapo in this very thread, dummy.

And you picked a weird post to point that out.

[Gutpile]

I would also take time to think about what the Stasi was and did. Comparing Immigration enforcement to an organization responsible for killing hundred of thousands of east Germans is an ignorant and stupid statement.

That's the moronic left for you.

[MementosMori]

married to a US CITIZEN having US CITIZEN kids what part of family values do you support? the right wing onew where you screw porn stars or ?

So then have him file the proper paperwork, if he’s married to a us citizien he is basically all but guaranteed to get citizenship

[Elegiac]

The Stasi existed to prevent you from leaving the country, a consequence of the big government you so desperately support.

Bad government, you mean.

It is humane to Americans if you commit a crime to be prosecuted according to the law of the land and that requires if you catch an alien rapist or murderer not to release him or her into general society based on the insane premise that is is humane.

Please indicate where this man was either a rapist or a murderer.

I would also take time to think about what the Stasi was and did. Comparing Immigration enforcement to an organization responsible for killing hundred of thousands of east Germans is an ignorant and stupid statement.

If it's permissible to call everything left of Reagan communist or complain about big government because of a mythological narrative, I'll continue to refer to ICE and the DEA by names appropriate to their reprehensibility.

Just telling it like it is, man. Why are you so PC?

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So then have him file the proper paperwork, if he’s married to a us citizien he is basically all but guaranteed to get citizenship

You have a very poor understanding of how slowly the immigration process moves.

[Gutpile]

And you picked a weird post to point that out.

One can pick any of your posts out of a hat and they'll all be dumb.

[Elegiac]

One can pick any of your posts out of a hat and they'll all be dumb.

This is a novel and interesting accusation that I've never heard before from the characters populating this forum.

[PACOX]

Did you even check what you responded to and do you remember what you posted? You were pretty much saying it's wrong to not let him stay because he has family there.

I know exactly what I said. Calling the laws/system stupid isnt the same saying the laws dont exist. He does not have the legal right to be here but thats because the system is flawed. Samething Ive been saying the entire time. Not sure how many different ways you want me to say it.

In the US you once had the "right" to beat your slave. That doesnt mean the law was just.

[Brubear]

Calling him an immigrant is about as honest as calling burglar a housing market researcher. What part of the immigration process was he in?

The part where he'd submitted an application for a Green Card, had married a US citizen, was gainfully employed and supporting a family of 3, and had been living in the country without incident for around 6 years?

[Gutpile]

The part where he'd submitted an application for a Green Card, had married a US citizen, was gainfully employed and supporting a family of 3, and had been living in the country without incident for around 6 years?

He's supposed to do that BEFORE entering the country.

[Tiwack]

He was in the country without the proper paperwork? Why is this even newsworthy that he was deported for that?

Bad news is good news and good news few want to read... Distraught family and working man putting food on the table about to get the boot on a technicality he missed. Headline writes itself.

[the game]

The part where he'd submitted an application for a Green Card, had married a US citizen, was gainfully employed and supporting a family of 3, and had been living in the country without incident for around 6 years?

he was ordered to leave in 2010.

[Freighter]

I know exactly what I said. Calling the laws/system stupid isnt the same saying the laws dont exist. He does not have the legal right to be here but thats because the system is flawed. Samething Ive been saying the entire time. Not sure how many different ways you want me to say it.

Some people clearly didn't read the article. His wife is a citizen, his kids are citizens. He tried to get to legal but the immigration system is a mess. The courts didnt think he was too much of a risk or they wouldve forcibly removed him. As far we know his only crime is that he overstayed his visa.

Overstaying is unlawful but not a criminal offense, not that some people understand the difference. A working man married to a citizen thats also father to two citizens shouldnt be caught up in the system or treated like a foreign invader.

That's not really justification for staying in a country without permission to be there. His wife and kids are irrelevant.

To which you responded:

Not wanting abandoning and kids is irrelevant? What? Im glad most officals disagree with that authoritarian approach. Again, if he was an actual risk or burden then he would have been forced out years ago.

Sure sounds like you're saying it's wrong to not let him stay.

[Bryntrollian]

The part where he'd submitted an application for a Green Card, had married a US citizen, was gainfully employed and supporting a family of 3, and had been living in the country without incident for around 6 years?

Right, but he had an arrest warrant since 2010, which was 2 years prior to all of that.

[Elegiac]

he was ordered to leave in 2010.

And yet was insufficiently dangerous for the court to actually enforce his deportation.

Hmm....

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He's supposed to do that BEFORE entering the country.

Oh yeah?

Which law contains these instructions.

[MementosMori]

The part where he'd submitted an application for a Green Card, had married a US citizen, was gainfully employed and supporting a family of 3, and had been living in the country without incident for around 6 years?

He had his marriage green card?