UK bookstore attacked by 'mask-wearing fascists'

[Cruor]

Um... I don't understand... the "Nazi Book Store" would never be allowed to even open, but they allow a socialist bookstore, which is far more dangerous to exist? Difference is, there are no Nazi nations but Socialism is alive, dangerous, and horrible. Such a thing should not be allowed to exist. The book store can't make a profit right? I mean that wouldn't be very socialist of them... or they give all of their profits to "the people" right? owners just keep enough for bread and water, and cheese with 4 oz of dried meat as a treat once a week?

[grexly75]

Violating court orders and deliberately trying to prejudice the jury in an active trial isn't "no reason".

And yet other media reporters that were there the same day as Tommy Robinson was arrested were left untouched, also it was at the sentencing phase that Tommy was reporting on and for that he was arrested, tried and sentenced all within 5 hours..

[Xarkan]

would make sense, easy time and target for a false flag. Swipe some discarded signs, throw on a mask, and have a fit while your friends (knowingly or unknowingly) play the victims of this sudden and unprovoked attack.

Of course right wing attacks on left wing (socialist) places is not a new thing (nor is the opposite) so it is equally (or even more) likely that it is what it appears and that people are just jumping on the false flag claim because they themselves dislike socialists

[Zubacz]

Please take this pro-fascist BS somewhere else.

Trying to silence me due to lack of arguments. And somehow you call others fascist.

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If you're going to resort to whataboutisms at least pick better professional victims than Tommy Contempt of Court Robinson .

He was exonerated. And the OP mentioned Tommy Robinson.

[Nerovar]

Who reads books these days anyway? Its all on computers and internet.

It could be a PR stunt to get publicity for dying book store.

Shit like that has happened to one of the left leaning book stores in my city for years now. It's certainly not "a PR stunt". Why are there so many people downplaying right wing extremism?

Um... I don't understand... the "Nazi Book Store" would never be allowed to even open, but they allow a socialist bookstore, which is far more dangerous to exist? Difference is, there are no Nazi nations but Socialism is alive, dangerous, and horrible. Such a thing should not be allowed to exist. The book store can't make a profit right? I mean that wouldn't be very socialist of them... or they give all of their profits to "the people" right? owners just keep enough for bread and water, and cheese with 4 oz of dried meat as a treat once a week?

I've never seen such incoherent rambling.

[Surfd]

Um... I don't understand... the "Nazi Book Store" would never be allowed to even open, but they allow a socialist bookstore, which is far more dangerous to exist? Difference is, there are no Nazi nations but Socialism is alive, dangerous, and horrible. Such a thing should not be allowed to exist. The book store can't make a profit right? I mean that wouldn't be very socialist of them... or they give all of their profits to "the people" right? owners just keep enough for bread and water, and cheese with 4 oz of dried meat as a treat once a week?

You do realize that damn near every nation on earth is at least somewhat socialist in nature right? I mean, seriously. It is incredibly difficult to take you people seriously when you spout utterly moronic drivel like that incoherent paranoid babble i just quoted.

[Deleted]

While destroying books or intimidating anyone is bad, what the British government did to Tommy Robinson is way worse. Can't really be surprised a few crazies on the right are unreasonable, when the politically correct, islamophilic government is jailing people for no reason.

How far would you go in justifying violence and hate? Is it still okay if they murder someone? If free press is abolished? If ethnic cleansing begins? Where would you draw the line? Perhaps you should consider drawing the line at "no hate or violence is okay", instead of "hate and violence is okay as long as it targets people I disagree with". You are an extremely dangerous individual, and I hope you change for the better.

[Zubacz]

Yeah, no. He's appealed the sentencing, on the grounds that he thinks it's too severe. He still plead guilty to contempt of court, twice.

https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/new...ppeal-14992614

As the article notes, he could end up with a longer sentence after all this.

Did you even read the article you quoted? Basically all the charges against him were overturned. Sure, there can be a retrial, and some political activist judge can make up new charges, but for now there is no damning evidence.

He was filming outside the court. That deserves a jail sentence in your opinion?

[Dr Assbandit]

Um... I don't understand... the "Nazi Book Store" would never be allowed to even open, but they allow a socialist bookstore, which is far more dangerous to exist? Difference is, there are no Nazi nations but Socialism is alive, dangerous, and horrible. Such a thing should not be allowed to exist. The book store can't make a profit right? I mean that wouldn't be very socialist of them... or they give all of their profits to "the people" right? owners just keep enough for bread and water, and cheese with 4 oz of dried meat as a treat once a week?

Sweety you know there is a difference between socialism and communism correct?

[Zubacz]

He wasn't exonerated. His case is going to be retried.

All the "evidence" against him has been called into question. He was about to be jailed for 10months for filming outside the court. It's laughable.

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Sweety you know there is a difference between socialism and communism correct?

Communism is an extreme case of socialism.

[Deleted]

He was exonerated. It was just proved there was no reason.

I mean i'm not surprised that a Tommy Robinson supporter doesn't understand the law, or the justice system, but come on man, atleast be original.

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And yet other media reporters that were there the same day as Tommy Robinson was arrested were left untouched, also it was at the sentencing phase that Tommy was reporting on and for that he was arrested, tried and sentenced all within 5 hours..

Because he already had a suspended sentence from a conviction for doing the exact same thing earlier this year.

Ofcourse, don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative or anything.

[Kronik85]

What a gem of a topic with some truly outstanding replies ranging from "what about Tommy Robinson!" to "it's a false flag!". /slowclap

[Zubacz]

I mean i'm not surprised that a Tommy Robinson supporter doesn't understand the law, or the justice system, but come on man, atleast be original.

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Because he already had a suspended sentence from a conviction for doing the exact same thing earlier this year.

Ofcourse, don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative or anything.

Yes, the facts are a higher court just said the procedure was totally unjustified. The justice system failed miserably in the first instance and had to be corrected. Because they did not follow the law.

[Trassk]

It's always funny seeing the car or further leftist on these threads think extremists on the right are the only major problem with the political climate.
Far left and far right deserve one another

[Ryme]

These tactics seem familiar.

[Zubacz]

How far would you go in justifying violence and hate? Is it still okay if they murder someone? If free press is abolished? If ethnic cleansing begins? Where would you draw the line? Perhaps you should consider drawing the line at "no hate or violence is okay", instead of "hate and violence is okay as long as it targets people I disagree with". You are an extremely dangerous individual, and I hope you change for the better.

Cool it with the personal attacks. I just like free speech. I think both Tommy Robinson and Marxist bookstores shouldn't be censored. But you can't be surprised that a fringe element of one side reacts when you attack them. Antifa destroys shit all the time; do you blame the bookstore for them?

Violence or inciting violence is rightly illegal. Hate speech does not exist. It's just speech and that's free. That's my "line".

[Deleted]

Yes, the facts are a higher court just said the procedure was totally unjustified. The justice system failed miserably in the first instance and had to be corrected. Because they did not follow the law.

They said there was a technical flaw with the trial itself, which presumably has something to do with the fact that the trial took place 5 hours after Tommy was arrested, which it shouldn't have done.

What should have happened was he should have been arrested, remanded in custody, offered bail and the trial should have happened a few weeks later, at which point Tommy would still have been convicted of breaching his suspended sentence, and rightfully sent to jail for 13 months. Which is what will happen when the retrial happens because he broke the law, twice.

[Kaleredar]

would make sense, easy time and target for a false flag. Swipe some discarded signs, throw on a mask, and have a fit while your friends (knowingly or unknowingly) play the victims of this sudden and unprovoked attack.

Yeah I mean fascists aren't really known for attacking shops and destroying literature, right?

Your "couldmaybes" can remain safely in the realm of speculative fiction until actual proof of some form of conspiracy arises. Beyond that, I think occam's razor is a pretty good creed.

If it looks like fascists, sounds like fascists, and smashes stuff it disagrees with like fascists, it's probably... you guessed it... fascists.

[Cruor]

Sweety you know there is a difference between socialism and communism correct?

Ok, any time I define socialism I am tiold I am wrong, but the person who tells me I am wrong never defines it themselves. Lets see if you can be the first.

Here is how I understand it: A system in which there is collective ownership of production and wealth. Meaning, people who had earned their money and property would have it "re distributed" to the "less fortunate" a lot of people like it because in their minds, they could be an "artist" making figures out of straws and paper clips, and because they see this as a needed profession, they would get money from people with real jobs.

There would be no reason to be a doctor for example, because you get paid as much and the same benefits as say, a package room clerk who gets to sit and watch youtube all day (or post here) A doctor might make a bit more, but why be one and put forth all that effort to be taxed into oblivion so things can be equal? There would be no reason to strive for more because your gain just gets "distributed"

Now, go ahead and tell me how wrong I am and I don't know what I am talking about, but make sure to fail to give the proper explanation, and then not explain how this magical system would all work out.

[Volardelis]

So the "freedom of speech" right shows that they hate the idea of free speech if it comes from the other side.

No surprises there. Considering their god emperor has said numerous times that the press is the enemy of the people.