Omarosa taping Trump's may be one of the worst White House security breach

[GennGreymane]

Omarosa taping Trump's situation room may be one of the worst White House security breaches ever

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Omarosa Manigault, the reality TV star who President Donald Trump took from "The Apprentice" to the White House, recorded Chief of Staff John Kelly in the situation room in what may be one of the worst security breaches in the history of the office.

The White House's situation room is a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility, or SCIF, where the president makes top-level decisions on national policy, oftentimes issues of life and death in response to war or crisis.

National security professionals go to extreme lengths to ensure the security and of the conversations in and out of the room. A team follows the president and can establish one of these rooms in short notice when needed.

Importantly, staffers must give up recording devices or cell phones when entering the room. Omarosa managed to get a recording out of the situation room and play it on national television this week.

Ned Price, spokesman of the National Security Council in the Obama administration said he'd "never heard of a more serious breach of protocol," according to Axios.

Price on Twitter explained how such a breach could take place.

"There's a misimpression that it'd be difficult to sneak a phone into the Sit Room. It wouldn't be. It's a system built on trust. These are supposed to be the finest public servants we have. The WH wasn't designed for the Omarosas of the world. Sad we now have to accommodate them," he tweeted.

"Why was she there in the first place? Why did John Kelly, who has a large, private office, feel that was the best place to fire her?" Price continued.

The current White House also frowned on Omarosa's actions.

Press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said: "The very idea a staff member would sneak a recording device into the White House Situation Room, shows a blatant disregard for our national security — and then to brag about it on national television further proves the lack of character and integrity of this disgruntled former White House employee."

So far, tapes produced by Omarosa, who blamed a dishonest White House for bringing her to tape conversations, have contained little more than innocuous conversation.

The tapes played by Omarosa on TV so far have included John Kelly firing her in the situation room and Trump purportedly calling her the next day to say he didn't know about the firing and that he was unhappy with it.

[Skroe]

Only the best people.

[Jonnusthegreat]

I find it strange they didn't have her sign an NDA - it's realistically their fault.

[Deleted]

Has she actually mentioned why she did make the tapes?

[Vanyali]

I find it strange they didn't have her sign an NDA - it's realistically their fault.

They did, because everyone has to sign a loyalty membership to work with Trump.

That doesn't mean that you should operate the WH on the honor system, nor that the NDA is effective or worth a shit when you're doing shady shit and get recorded.

[Agrossive]

Has she actually mentioned why she did make the tapes?

NPR interview she said she had to cover herself because Trumps administration was cutthroat. Amazing trumps able to get all this done with so many people in his way and against him.

[Deleted]

I find it strange they didn't have her sign an NDA - it's realistically their fault.

That would be strange indeed.

But besides signing some form of NDA, how punishable is this all by law? Can't imagine anyone getting away with this.

[tyrlaan]

Only the best people.

It's almost like if you hire slimeballs, that they will behave as such.

Oh, my bad, it's exactly like that.

Shame to see these things happen to such a very stable genius /s

[Deleted]

That may be a lil' bit over the top i concur.

[Marsc92]

Oh look, another thread about to be filled with Trump haters

Perhaps some of you should develop a relationship with the truth. Manigult's book claims Trump literally ate paper containing sensitive information which makes no sense considering it's publicly known that Trump has for a long time been a germophobe.

Besides, call things as they are, the way she handled this situation does show that she is dishonest, she was fired for misusing a WH vehicle and Kelly himself said if she were in the military it would have been a court martial worthy offense.

She does deserve prosecution. I personally would prefer we don't go down that road, but that doesn't change that she broke the law.

[tyrlaan]

That would be strange indeed.

But besides signing some form of NDA, how punishable is this all by law? Can't imagine anyone getting away with this.

Ah yes, we'll see the hypocrisy of the Trump administration (in this case) in full display when they will go full rule of law over this while continuing to ignore Trump and his cabinet's assorted legal transgressions.

[Jonnusthegreat]

They did, because everyone has to sign a loyalty membership to work with Trump.

That doesn't mean that you should operate the WH on the honor system, nor that the NDA is effective or worth a shit when you're doing shady shit and get recorded.

Isn't violating an NDA a crime? Or is it just civil?

[Sky High]

And people seem to wonder how and why so many leaks spill out of this administration.

[Marsc92]

Ah yes, we'll see the hypocrisy of the Trump administration (in this case) in full display when they will go full rule of law over this while continuing to ignore Trump and his cabinet's assorted legal transgressions.

Pretty hypocritical considering every administration has many legal issues throughout their terms. If Trump broke any serious laws by now you would have Pelosi and co actually supporting impeachment. Everytime house Democrats try to start a vote she makes a considerable attempt to quash it. Either she's secretly working with Trump, or realistically she is saving the party from the embarrassment of trying to impeach a sitting president without even having a case.

Im sure we all remember how bad and out of touch the Republican party looked for years with the way they handled Bill Clinton.

[Vanyali]

Isn't violating an NDA a crime? Or is it just civil?

Civil, iirc. That said, you can't cover a crime with an NDA, and it can't be onerous or illegal in and of itself (ie, if it's something that a FoI request would require disclosure of you might not get into trouble releasing info about it, or if it was requiring that you sign or never work again in the industry).

[schwarzkopf]

Omarosa taping Trump's situation room may be one of the worst White House security breaches ever

Seriously - compared to what Trump has done, taping her firing is close to non existent.

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Oh look, another thread about to be filled with Trump haters

To be fair - all rational people that listen to Trump's words or read Trump posts will end up either hating Trump or feeling sorry for the sick old man.

[Skroe]

Isn't violating an NDA a crime? Or is it just civil?

For most NDAs, as the word is used, civil. You can be sued and held financially liable. It's not a misdeanor or a felony. You can't go to jail for it.

However you can go to jail for crimes associated with breaking the NDA. For example if I break an NDA and utilize that to gain a financial advantage or illegally benefit another company, that would be a crime. Or to offer an example closer to subject at hand, someone with access to government intelligence will likely sign what amounts to an NDA regarding their involvement in getting that intelligence (who provided it, what it is, etc). If they share that intelligence without approval, they're breaking laws related to classified information, in addition to the NDA.

[PixelFox]

Isn't violating an NDA a crime? Or is it just civil?

Just Civil. Now if she had a security clearance and violated that, then it would be a major federal crime.

People get worked up about "NDAs" but most of the time they're not that exciting. In fact they're usually "Disclosure Agreements" not "Non-Disclosure Agreements", where people agree to share certain information in confidence. There are always exclusions for information you got via some other source, or which become publicly available through no fault of your own etc.

I used to work with a large tech company and 90% of the "NDA" documents they asked me to sign to get information on future products etc. were actually invalid because the manager involved had no idea how to fill out the form or what the various blank fields meant so they usually produced something that made no sense lol.

Of course there are people like Trump who try to use such contracts for unilateral control of behavior, but enforcing such things isn't always straightforward.

[Mic_128]

She does deserve prosecution. I personally would prefer we don't go down that road, but that doesn't change that she broke the law.

I'm curious: why wouldn't you want someone who broke the law and, who by your own admission, deserves prosecution, yet would rather that not happen?

[Machismo]

Why would you take someone into the Situation Room to fire them? That seems like a very odd place, and it's clear they wanted to avoid any recording of it.

More importantly, why would she even have access to a SCIF in the first place? Her job description does not sound like someone who would require SCI access.

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Oh look, another thread about to be filled with Trump haters

Perhaps some of you should develop a relationship with the truth. Manigult's book claims Trump literally ate paper containing sensitive information which makes no sense considering it's publicly known that Trump has for a long time been a germophobe.

Besides, call things as they are, the way she handled this situation does show that she is dishonest, she was fired for misusing a WH vehicle and Kelly himself said if she were in the military it would have been a court martial worthy offense.

She does deserve prosecution. I personally would prefer we don't go down that road, but that doesn't change that she broke the law.

She may not. If she never had access, then John Kelly may have broken the law by taking her in there. Her job role does not sound like anything that would require SCI access.