Personal loot at its finest.

[shaunika123]

This OP is 100% millenial and it’s hilarious. The loot system is out there to “punish” mythic raiders Lololol.. please dude.. go post somewhere else, no one wants to hear you whine and cry poor me... lololololol this OP is hilarious XD

born in 1990
soo swing and a miss?

[Sanguinerd]

you didnt get what i meant.. same way you didnt get what op meant

Well then maybe it's time you two learned how to communicate properly.

[gaymer77]

trading one loot is hardly what you'd call "funnel"

No but bringing in an undergeared alt to down a boss and having that undergeared alt give loot to a "main raider" is exactly what funneling loot is & why this was implemented. You guys chose to do this and you have to learn to live with the fact that you can't funnel gear to "main raiders" because of the system. QQ more please...

[Ferg]

Mythic raiders wouldn't get getting "fucked" like this if guilds didn't insist on continuing the cancerous alt stacking and split raiding for so long. This is the reward that "hardcore" raiders forced upon the game by being clever with this shit.

a thousand times this but these idiots fail to see that their actions had consequences

[Joán]

insist? no one was insisting

they were just doing it

this wasnt even done to stop mythic raiders from doing split raids(they still do split raids btw) it was dont so people wouldnt cry how they got fucked by not receiving loot because an evil master looter didnt give it to them

you know a lot of people eventually raid mythic even if its months into progression.. it was done so these people wouldnt feel assaulted cuz they were fucked by some evil master looters in some trash guilds

The game design decision driving forced PL is 100% the desire to discourage or at least slow down top guilds gearing their characters with alt rotations and split raids, and by extension the fact that even guilds that are very far from high end started doing this thinking they "needed" to. Removing ML has absolutely nothing to do with some very few people feeling like they got scammed by master looters in dodgy guilds. They are doing this to protect a community that is self-destructing under its own self-imposed workload.

It's a horrible way to play the game and Blizz is fighting back against it best they can. If guilds still keep on doing it and gain any benefit from it we'll lose the ability to trade loot entirely in the future.

[Ferg]

born in 1990
soo swing and a miss?

1990 makes you a millennial, champ, just like me

[Craaazyyy]

Well then maybe it's time you two learned how to communicate properly.

first of all he wasnt able to trade anything because of it being too high ilvl

the coin isnt the issue, he just posted it(as he said himself) cuz its just adding to the frustration, even though there is no issue with that regarding PL

[Algorath]

At least you'll get mythic zul down easier next time, you cheese tac using scrubnubs

[Craaazyyy]

The game design decision driving forced PL is 100% the desire to discourage or at least slow down top guilds gearing their characters with alt rotations and split raids, and by extension the fact that even guilds that are very far from high end started doing this thinking they "needed" to. Removing ML has absolutely nothing to do with some very few people feeling like they got scammed by master looters in dodgy guilds. They are doing this to protect a community that is self-destructing under its own self-imposed workload.

It's a horrible way to play the game and Blizz is fighting back against it best they can. If guilds still keep on doing it and gain any benefit from it we'll lose the ability to trade loot entirely in the future.

it does, and thats what blizzard stated in one of the Q&A.. where they also said that split raids had nothing to do with that.. because split raids are a problem of a handful of people and they dont give a shit about that

they said that PL would give people more control over their own destiny when it comes to loot

yeah i know this doesnt make sense, but thats what they said

[Clozer]

cutting edge is heroic(aka normal in mop) so nice try

https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=...of-the-emperor

It's todays mythic. LOL dude here's someone who has no idea.

[Craaazyyy]

https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=...of-the-emperor

It's todays mythic. LOL dude here's someone who has no idea.

okay you got me, still you having it doesnt change anything

[Prime92]

that is proof of personal loot working like shit... nothing more.

There you go, I fixed that for your.

[shaunika123]

being born in 1990 makes you a millenial btw

no it doesnt?

millenials are late 90s early 2000s

well I guess I could be wrong.

anyway

does it matter

what does being a millenial have to do with wanting a fair loot system?

[Deleted]

You cheesed the boss. You don't deserve loot.

[Alphatorg]

At least you'll get mythic zul down easier next time, you cheese tac using scrubnubs

You could say the same about Method or literally any other guild that killed this boss (the last time I looked it up the lowest amount of rogues on a kill was three), people don't stack rogues because they want to cheat the system, they all but have to, because the boss/class design is such a terrible mess.. I have no idea why you have to flame someone when you're just a scrub who obviously has zero idea what he's talking about. You just reveal your own stupidity. Just like half the people commenting on the topic.
Makes you wonder why people feel so angry about a type of content they don't even take part in themselves.

[Morg]

Dunno why you guys are arguing with the window licking mmochamp community who cry 'loot abuse' in there awesome weekly lfr clears

[shaunika123]

You cheesed the boss. You don't deserve loot.

someone's jealous.

[Ferg]

someone's jealous.

not really, if anything the person who made the thread is jealous bc an alt got loot and they didnt

[Joán]

it does, and thats what blizzard stated in one of the Q&A.. where they also said that split raids had nothing to do with that.. because split raids are a problem of a handful of people and they dont give a shit about that

they said that PL would give people more control over their own destiny when it comes to loot

yeah i know this doesnt make sense, but thats what they said

Obviously announcing a feature as giving you more control of your destiny and player agency is a lot more attractive than coming out and saying it's openly hostile to high-end and mid-range raiders. Anyone who played the game for a long time will see that one of these problems was a huge one and another nearly irrelevant. And you're hard pressed to find a guild inside the top 200 who doesn't require at least two raid ready characters and if that's not a sufficient illustration of the problem then it would be impossible to convey it.

You used to be able to be a realm first raider and easily break into the top 100 by being good at your class, showing up for raids 3-4 times per week with flask, food and potions. Nothing else.

Today you need at least two, preferably more raid ready characters with Azerite/artiface power, legendaries (in legion), world quests, rep gating, bonus roll coins, etc, etc. All design decisions intended to increase player attachment to single characters and give players enough to do without alting - but many raiding guilds JUST DIDN'T GET THIS and instead considered the fact that you can still benefit from alt rotation and ML as an open invitation to require more and more hours put into the game to stay competitive - because of course if you didn't, then someone else will.

Blizzard is trying to save the raiding community from itself and it's going to get more and more heavy-handed until it's no longer possible to benefit from schemes like this.

Remember, ML has been here all along but there were never split raids/stacking in BC, WotLK, Cataclysm. It was an opening for gearing up faster that was always there but wasn't used until guilds realized they could do this to gain an advantage over competitors and then suddenly everyone "has" to do it - that's how competitive raiding works.

[Hoeth]

what does being a millenial have to do with wanting a fair loot system?

Entitlement and the "I'm a victim" mentality. Which fits pretty well with the theme of this thread.

Also, you are 28 years old and behaving like this over a video game?